Paladin

[hukK]

Servus o rotatie la pala protect , nu reusesc sa tin aggro , geru este mediocru,,ce am mai avut pe acolo si de la retry...
The World of Warcraft Armory

[rakware]

The World of Warcraft Armory momentan e borshit cu pvp la talente si glyphs

mai baga daca ai de unde fara sa pierzi +def putin +hit.
ai nevoie de 2 macrouri
1.
/castsequence reset=6 Hammer of the Righteous, Shield of Righteousness
2.
/castsequence reset=8 Holy Shield, Judgement of Light, Consecration

seal of vengeance si incepi cu 2, si spamezi 2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1 ) you get the picture.
Treaba cu aggro tine foarte mult de cu cine joci, daca joci cu unul mult mai imbracat ca tine normal sa ia aggro, la fel si daca sunt baietii trigger happy si dau in alta tinta.
Ai un spec bun, ai glyphs bune, nu ai de ce sa pierzi aggro decat dpdv +hit.
Incepi totdeauna pull-ul la singlemobs cu hand of reckoning si cam asta e tot, la multi tot se gaseste unu care sa dea in cel care nu trebuie in secunda cand ai facut pull, in raiduri e altceva decat e in eroice, daca nu ai pierdut aggro pe nici un boss pana acum este ok, daca ai pierdut e doar de la +hit sau pentru ca ai jucat cu oameni mult prea bine imbracati fata de tine.

[hukK]

merci de info , o sa trec pe dps sa strang ceva gear de tank .

[rebell1607]

dual specc la pala cu prot sau holy ? :P

[Tanya_86]

Cea mai buna rotatie pentru agroo e sa incepi cu Avenger's Shield, si un Hand of Reckoning pana ajunge mobul la tine dupa care:

Holy Shield, Shield of Righteous, Judge, Hammer, Consecration and repeat. E mult MULT mai bine sa NU folosesti macro pentru mai multe abilitati.

Paladinul e clasa care genereaza cel mai mult threat ca tanc in momentul asta, asa ca nu ai scuza sa pierzi agroo.

dual specc la pala cu prot sau holy ? :P

Pai, un healer care sa faca treaba decenta e usor de gasit pentru instante, insa un TANC decent e mult mai greu de gasit. Sau ma rog asa vad eu situatia, care nu m-am increzut decat intr-un singur tanc din TBC incoa: Eu insumi.

[Burghy]

Grija ca HoR sa loveasca inaintea scutului

[hukK]

am facut rotatia asta Holy Shield, Shield of Righteous, Judge, Hammer, Consecration and repeat e ok dar azi cu vreo 2-3 gered toc25 imi luau mobii.
cat hit trebuie sa am ?
Damage: 802 - 1025 Speed: 2.67 Power2473 Hit Rating: 105 Crit Chance: 16.07%Expertise: 16 Defense 497

[dashu]

Iti mai trebuie si hit si expertise, si mai ales defense. Incearca sa cauti si singurel cat, si mai ales de ce.

Eu incep cu Avenger's Shield, si/sau judge (depinde daca AS e pe cd), dupa care SoR sau HoR depinde daca-i boss sau trash. Oricum, nu te chinui cu cine stie ce rotatie ideala, la paladin totul se da la CD, depinzand de talente & cat trebuie sa te misti, rotatia poate sa difere.

[Tanya_86]

am facut rotatia asta Holy Shield, Shield of Righteous, Judge, Hammer, Consecration and repeat e ok dar azi cu vreo 2-3 gered toc25 imi luau mobii.

Asta e din unu sau doua motive:

Ai gear mai slab ca ei, sau nu pot ei sa astepte 2 secunde sa dea tancul ceva damage :P

[ThEDaMn3d]

Nu pot sa-ti vad armory, dar in cazul in care nu ai un spec cu Crusade (de ex. spec-ul meu, la care poti pune 5/5 Conviction daca vrei max TPS), te-as sfatui sa mergi pe Crusade spec, e mai mult TPS (vezi Maintankadin) decat Seals of the Pure.

De asemenea, daca folosesti [Libram of Defiance] poti sa-l schimbi cu libram-ul de pe Conquest badges, mai ales cand ai de a face cu aggrowhores, sau cel de retribution de 245 care da 200 STR, ceea ce ajuta f mult TPS.

[mihai.kojovici]

eu am warrior si iti pot spune ca am peste 280 hit rating, si nu am nici o problema cu agro mai ales acum la pally ai si un spell care iti tine ca un fel de vigilance de la warrior, charul este Obediah pe Azjolnerub daca vrei sa vezi stat pe wowheroes.com sau be.imba.hu si nu mai ratezi nici cu taunt sau orice cere hitrating, orice miss sau parried pierde mult agroo, pt a evita aparitia de 'parried' experties cap nu stiu cat e exact dar parca este 18, eu am 19.

Bafta cu pally pt ca e o clasa fff buna la tinut agroo.

[m-m-c]

56 expertise e cap-ul pentru parry.

[Adriian]

si daca dai parry parca se reseteaza si swing ul bosului ?

[mishurotaru]

Originally Posted by gismo

Am facut o mica lista cu addonurile care le folosesc mai ales ca holy, sper sa va ajute.
Toate addonurile au link catre curse.com. Lista e un copy/paste dintr-un post d-al meu de pe forumul woweu.


This 1st addon, I'd say its "a must" addon
1. PowerAura Classic
: Power Auras Classic - Addons - Curse
Q u o t e:
This addon was created to provide visual cues (auras) when you gain buffs, debuffs and many more.

- It helps me track the duration of Beacon of Light and Sacred Shield on my target, and especially to track
Judgement of Pure ( Judgements of the Pure ) and Light's Grace ( Light's Grace ) buffs, for that extra haste.
As a retribution paladin, you can keep track of Heart of the Crusader and the proc of Art of War on your target.


Buff Addon:
2. PallyPower
: PallyPower - Addons - Curse
Q u o t e:
Pally Power is an add-on that provides an interactive and easy to use interface that allows you to control assignments of blessings for yourself and, if you are a party leader or an assistant, for other paladins in your group or raid.

- Doesnt require any explanation, other than its description. =]


Raid Frame:
3. Grid
: Grid - Addons - Curse
Q u o t e:
Grid is a modular, lightweight, and screen-estate saving grid of party/raid unit frames.

- Yes, its small and you can place it everywhere on screen.


Unit Frame addon
4. Pitbull
: PitBull Unit Frames 3.0 - Addons - Curse
Q u o t e:
PitBull is a Unit Frames addon that provides maximal customization

- Some may advice you to use Xperl ( X-Perl UnitFrames - Addons - Curse ) , but i find the high customization of Pitbull to be a bit superior.
I dont know how Xperl acts when you're starting to cast a heal on your target, but if someone started healing your current target before you, Pibull shows me on that target's unitframe, that someone already started healing my current target (and the ammount of the heal) ,so i can cancel my healing spell, so i won't waste mana with an overheal.
- An advice as a holy paladin : My Target's Target's target its very useful, when the tanks are switching, so you'd know which one is tanking after the swtich. ( target's target of my target , or however its spelled/written )

Casting bar Addon:
5. Quartz:
Quartz - Addons - Curse
Q u o t e:
Quartz is a modular approach to a casting bar addon.

- Mainly it servers as a casting bar addon, highly customizable. It also servers as a keeping track of your buffs on a target.


Range Display Addon:
6. RangeDisplay
: RangeDisplay - Addons - Curse
Q u o t e:
Estimated range display. type /rangedisplay for help, /rangedisplay config for configuration.

-Ever questioned yourself how far your target is, you're unable to cast a heal on him ?
Or if you want/need to stay at max range from your target, but you still want to heal him, RangeDisplay helps you enormously in this matter.


Cooldowns Addon:
7. CoolLine: CoolLine Cooldowns - Addons - Curse
Q u o t e:
CoolLine is a spell/item cooldown mod that displays icons on a single bar/line to give you an idea of when it will be ready. No statusbar timer and no text timer.

- I dont know any addon for showing cooldowns, but i find CoolLine to be a nice one for this matter. Its highly customizable, able to be placed everywhere on screen ( in my UI its placed on the left side of my unit frame and when a spell its getting ready for use, its going underneath my unit frame - easy to see )

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And some extra addons, to customize your UI just for the kicks:

Action bar addons:
Xa. Bartender : Bartender4 - Addons - Curse


Xb Macaroon ( InfiniBar's successor ): Macaroon! - Addons - Curse


X. Parrot : Parrot - Addons - Curse
Q u o t e:
Floating Combat Text of awesomeness.



X. Prat: Prat 3.0 - Addons - Curse
Q u o t e:
Prat-3.0 is a chat enhancement addon for world of warcraft 3.0.



X. RatingBuster: RatingBuster - Addons - Curse
Q u o t e:
The design aim of RatingBuster is to provide detailed, meaningful and customizable information about items so you can easily decide for yourself which item is better.



X. PowerDisplay: Cant find a link, other than this: PowerDisplay - Files - WoW AddOns - WowAce.com
Q u o t e:
it shows your main stats (like Attack power, Spell power) and a configurable amount of minor stats (crit, hit, dodge, parry, penetration etc) as they are.



My UI: http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/1...3009132933.jpg




E buna de ceva, sau sa ma las de chestiile astea?

Bun !! keep it alive m8

[rebell1607]

well am dinguit vineri 80 si am tot farmat toc / toc hc / hcs si mi-am luat niste gear [main retri, prot offspec]
as avea niste intrebari legate de tanking :
am 28k cu sanctuary-ul meu ajunge ? [pentru hcs momentan inclusiv toc hc intreb]
am 496def [tre sa-l duc 540 sau cat e cap de toc hc ?]
In primul rand capez def si dupa aceea bag stamina cat se poate ? care e ordinea ?
cat e hit-ul cap pt toc hc ?

Thanks

[mihai.kojovici]

Pt toc 5 man hc e de preferat 30k , dar merge si cu 28k hp tankat daca ai grupuri bune.

Def cap: 540 - de preferat peste cu 2-3 ( http://www.wowwiki.com/Defense )
Hit cap: 263 - ce e peste e inutil ( http://www.wowwiki.com/Hit )
Expertise: 56 (cum a zis m-m-c mai sus) - poti sa te duci si peste dar nu irosii socketuri punand expertise in loc de stamina daca deja ai 56 expertise - valabil si pentru hit cap. ( http://www.wowwiki.com/Expertise )

ai astea, atunci bagi stamina.

[angry]

hit rating si expertise cap pot sa tot fie valorile alea
dar nu e de recomandat sa mergi asa sus
expertise sa fii macar peste 20, hit 200
dar pentru startergear iti trebe 540 def si hp decent, fa-ti griji pentru expertise si hit pt. cand tanchezi raid boss

[rebell1607]

Am ajuns la 520 def si 30k hp buffat [sanctuary + blood pact] si am tankat hcs fara probleme, dar sunt departe de raid... am hit-ul foarte mic, in jur de 120 (la fel si pe retri). O sa-mi iau chestul pe embleme si un wrist [duc lipsa] sa vad cum o sa fie atunci si revin cu un post.

Merci pentru raspunsuri

[Adriian]

Pentru 10 expertise in plus poti folosi glyph of seal of vengeance, pe care il tii on mereu la bosi.

540 defcap e pentru bosii de lvl 83+ daca nu ma insel, in heroice 520 e chiar ok.
Cat despre hp... la gear de nivel t7 eram defcaped, 15%dodge/parry, 35%block si doar 26k hp (fara sa folosesc trinketele de la brewfest boss), 30k hp bufat e decent atata timp cat ai defensive stats destule... faza e ca daca esti pe un realm cu "elitist jerks" care cauta tanci cu 45k hp pt eroice, ai sanse mari sa iti iei kick din party cand vad aia ca ai asa putin hp.

Incearca sa iei capul si sabia din toc5 heroic sunt iteme foarte bune, cheltuieste tryumph badges pe t9 gear, si ia toate itemele de tankat cu badges of conquest... sunt excelente mai ales pt faptul ca au +hit si ceva mai mult defense, ceea ce iti da voie sa bagi gems de stamina in sockets, dupa ce esti def caped.

Cat despre retribution ... toate bune si frumoase pana vezi ca 3din 10 playeri sunt ret pala ... iti trebuie o ghilda decenta in care sa joci si care sa te accepte ca ret , daca vrei sa te bucuri de spec

Informatii despre specuri, rotatii , itemizare , etc aici : Paladins - Elitist Jerks

[rebell1607]

daca imi iau gear-ul de care zici tu fac 35k hp [badges and toc5hc] :P
nici macar nu sunt acoperit pe toate sloturile, imi lipseste wrist, feet si un trinket (adica am dar nu de tank, iar chestul e albastru de lvl154). In rest am iteme de level 200 [din hcs] si 219 [din toc hc]. Imi pare rau ca nu pot sa iau trinket d-ale de brewfest cu 170 stamina
Din toc hc am asa : Peacekeeper cu : +34 def rating socket
-Head-ul (Crestfallen Challenger) cu : +31 stamina 2% armor from items si +51 stamina
si Neck-ul (The Warlord's Depravity).
Feet o sa-mi iau din toc normal, wrist din OK hc, chest din emblems dar de un trinket bun stie cineva ?