Torchlight

[Mandea]

eu la torchlight asta nu tin minte sa fi aratat pagina de skilluri, atribute, etc. questuri ceva?
adica e frumos ce au aratat, il astept si eu, dar sper sa fie cu itemuri misto, sa cauti si altceva prin nivele decat sa omori, etc. sper sa nu fie doar kilareala oarba, chit ca e rapida si frumos grafic. sper, pt ca are potential si e pacat sa fie prea simplist.

[XSamSung]

Originally Posted by bibu

Nu cred ca voia sa spuna ca o sa fie mai bun Torchlight decat Diablo3, ci ca au demonstrat ca se poate dezvolta si lansa un hack and slash fara sa lasi jucatorii sa astepte 5 ani de la primele zvonuri. Eu tin minte ca am auzit acum vreo 2-3 ani ca se inregistra coloana sonora de la D3 pe undeva prin Polonia, si de-atunci se tot lucreaza, iar din ce se vede in trailere, nu vad cum se justifica perioada asta de 4-5 ani, nu are nimic groundbreaking, breathtaking, etc.

Exact.

What can I say, based on what they released so far, the game looks ok - from my point of view. I can't complain about that, but there something to feel disappointed about and that's "the current Blizzard" and their marketing strategies. The fact that they put more energy in marketing then in the making of the game (like 70% for marketing and 30% for the game). AND THAT'S WHY IT TAKES SO LOOOONGGG! What they released so far isn't some extremely complex 3D game with futuristic graphics. And Blizzard is definitely not a small and unexperienced company that works on a strict and very limited budget.

They way things progress, is as if - Blizzard DEVS, ARE COUNTING ON DONATIONS TO FINISH THIS GAME... And all this because of Blizzard marketing. Ok, maybe some of you are fine with that, as WoW players/fans you just check the news and go back to playing WoW, wile the other Diablo fans (including me), go back to finishing Diablo II for the 1000'th time... Wile you guys wouldn't mind waiting 10 more years, I personally (and all that feel the same) I'm at the end of my patience and very disappointed of CURRENT Blizzard because of that. As a huge fan of Diablo, one that bought their last titles, I feel disrespected both as fan and client.

Din nou, bravo baeti - semn ca se poate, dupa cum am mentionat si in postul anterior:

Originally Posted by XSamSung

Acum o saptamana am auzit de el (luna august) si deja au anutat data lansarii, hai sa zicem Noiembrie (cand ar ajunge si la noi) - asa da, oameni seriosi. Si ei puteau sa faca puzzle-uri: azi o suvita, peste o luna o unghie, hai un deget si dupa un an de zile un sfarc. Vreti mai mult "stati aproape" poate peste un an il vedeti si pe celalalt. Sau poate se iveste o idee mai estetica, un brush mai rozosin si o luam de la capat...

[Dead Ghost]

Samsun', muta-ti te rog trolleala si frustrarile pe threadu' de D3.

Foarte amuzant cum dai verdicte fara a fi jucat niciunul din cele doua jocuri puse in discutie.

Uite, hai ca pun altfel problema: Daca Torchlight va fi mai bun ca D2, daca va avea aceasi rejucabilitate si acelasi succes, abia atunci sa zicem ca il vei putea compara cu viitorul D3, pe care nu l-ai jucat si care se presupune ca va fi superior lui D2. Pana in acest moment nu a aparut absolut niciun joc care sa fie peste D2, la capitolul hack'n'slash rpg.

Bravo lor ca au facut Torchlight asa repede, daca va fi macar peste Diablo 2(doi), atunci jos palaria. Faptul ca au scos asa rapid un joc asemanator cu Diablo, nu inseamna obligatoriu ca va fi la aceasi inaltime sau mai bun, deci nu vad de unde atata bucurie asa de devreme. Decat doar daca esti un troll.

[bibu]

Eu am jucat un pic de Fate, care e asemanator cu Torchlight. Fate era un joculet OK avand in vedere ca are 250 MB, dar din pacate n-avea nici 30% din complexitatea D2. Singurele parti bune erau sistemul simplist de alocare a stats, grafica simpatica si generator de iteme random. Unice, rare etc.

[mobutu]

E prea devreme sa comparam jocurile intre ele, jocuri care nici macar n-au aparut inca.
Iar din marketing nu poti trage concluzii si emite judecati comparative obiective.
N-ar fi rau ca Torchlight sa fie un joc extraordinar, macar asa mai coboara blizard pe pamant (concurenta, deh) si poate fac un D3 mai rapid ... pentru ca este adevarat ca li s-a urcat la cap si durata asta mare de timp este total nejustificata.

PS pentru cine vrea sa citeasca mai multe preview'uri vezi la http://www.torchlightgame.com/press/

[Dead Ghost]

Luat dintr-un preview de pe acolo, chestia asta suna bine:

Also impressive is the fact that the game ships with the entire toolset Runic used to create Torchlight. You'll have access to the same graphics, particle effects, sound effects and so on, and you can create whatever you want ranging from new levels to new items and classes.

Pacat insa ca nu are coop, chiar mare pacat pt genul asta de joc.

[XSamSung]

Era si pe CG ceva din 5 Septembrie (autor - Bossman):

Studiourile Runic Games au anunţat în cadrul Penny Arcade Expo 2009 că data de lansare a action RPG-ului Torchlight a fost stabilită pentru 27 octombrie, jocul urmând să fie distribuit digital la un preţ de 19.99 dolari.

Dezvoltat de o parte din echipa care a creat Diablo, Diablo 2 şi Fate, Torchlight va oferi jucătorilor posibilitatea de a-şi alege atât un erou din cele trei clase disponibile (Destroyer, Alchemist, Vanquisher), cât şi un pet care se va dezvolta odată cu personajul principal.

Acţiunea se va desfăşura în aşezământul Torchlight, ameninţat de monştrii terifianţi ce au fost eliberaţi odată cu descoperirea zăcămintelor de Ember, un minereu extrem de rar şi preţios ce poate îmbunătăţi sau corupe orice atinge.

Nivelurile vor fi generate aleator de fiecare dată, împreună cu monştrii, comorile ce pot fi găsite şi puzzle-uri, asigurându-se un nivel ridicat de rejucabilitate. De asemenea, producătorii vor oferi comunităţii o serie de unelte care să le permită fanilor să-şi creeze propriile hărţi.

Nu e vorba de comparatie. Idea-i ca grafica super-uber-mega-ultra-complexa din Diablo III se regaseste si in Torchlight. Unde este vointa, se poate - unde este infumurare... dureaza... Sau poate Blizzard a pierdut cativa oameni importanti:

Runic Games is a computer game company formed by Travis Baldree (creator of Fate), Max Schaefer and Erich Schaefer (co-founders of Blizzard North), and the Flagship Studios Seattle team responsible for Mythos.[1] Following the dissolution of Flagship Studios in 2008, all 14 members of the Seattle team signed onto Runic Games,[2] [3] and the company is currently developing Torchlight, an action role-playing game similar to their previous project Mythos.

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Erich Schaefer

Erich Schaefer is a thirteen-year veteran of the gaming industry. Prior to co-founding Flagship Studios in 2003, he served as Vice President for Blizzard North where he was jointly responsible for all aspects of running that division. As a Director of Blizzard Entertainment for over seven years, he was influential in most creative and business aspects of the company.

Erich was a Project Lead, Design Lead and Art Director on Diablo and Diablo II. He was the sole environment artist on the original Diablo, as well as the interface artist for both Diablo and Diablo II. Erich also played an important role in the design of the structure and interface for Blizzard’s free online gaming service, Battle.net.

In September of 1993, Erich Schaefer founded Condor, Inc., along with his brother Max Schaefer and friend David Brevik. Condor was renamed Blizzard North when the company was acquired by the owners of Blizzard Entertainment in June of 1996. Erich’s other projects in the early days of Condor, Inc. included positions as Art and Design Lead on Justice League Task Force and Quarterback Club Football.

Max Schaefer


Max Schaefer, an interactive entertainment industry veteran, served as a Vice President for Blizzard North and a Director of Blizzard Entertainment before co-founding Flagship Studios in 2003 and later heading Runic Games, Inc. in 2008. He was a member of several internal project oversight teams, lending essential foresight to numerous Blizzard games.

Max contributed to art design on the original Diablo while simultaneously working on another title. He took over the responsibilities as Project, Design and Environment Art Director on Diablo II and was the Executive Producer and a key design influence on Diablo II: Lord of Destruction.

In September of 1993, Max Schaefer founded Condor, Inc., along with his brother Erich Schaefer and friend David Brevik. Condor was renamed Blizzard North when the company was acquired by the owners of Blizzard Entertainment in June of 1996. Max's other projects in the early days of Condor, Inc. included positions as Art and Design Lead on Justice League Task Force and Quarterback Club Football as well as being the Project and Art Lead on the cornerstone football title created for the launch of the M2 gaming platform.

Poate asta ar explica lipsa de imaginatie a celor de la Blizzard, de au ajuns sa apeleze la fani pentru idei. Cei drept multi clienti/fani vad doar Tilulul/Brandul si uita ca e nevoie de oameni priceputi, sa straluceasca acel brand. Pentru ei, daca aceste doua ingrediente sunt la un loc, succesul e garantat - prin ceva miracol, ceva magie...

Ce sa zic... A fost odata 3DO si Heroes IV.

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Cat despre multiplayer:

Torchlight MMORPG

The Torchlight multiplayer game will be an adventure-themed "action-MMORPG" published worldwide by Chinese online game developer and operator Perfect World Co., Ltd. In the game, "adventurers set out from the town of Torchlight into the nearby mountains in search of the magic ore that imbues their equipment with power, yet imperils their very existence."

Runic Games plans to release the MMORPG approximately eighteen months to "a couple years" after the single-player game, and both will be set in the same game world.

[Dead Ghost]

Originally Posted by XSamSung

Nu e vorba de comparatie. Idea-i ca grafica super-uber-mega-ultra-complexa din Diablo III se regaseste si in Torchlight.

Aham. Pai poate data viitoare cand mai postezi, ar trebui sa spui mai clar ca te referi strict la grafica si nu la altceva. Si daca tu crezi ca grafica le ia cel mai mult timp la un astfel de joc, esti naiv. Si daca tu crezi ca grafica face un joc ca D3, iarasi te inseli.

In rest, nu stiu de ce tot iti place sa dai quote-uri kilometrice, lucrurile alea se stiau (Mobutu postase un link despre asta, in care era prezentata echipa producatoare, iar eu am vorbit despre acelasi lucru pe threadu' de Diablo 3).

Putin imi pasa de grafica, sa vedem restul jocului cum este. Grafica singura nu face un joc. Ti-am zis, daca e mai bun ca D2, jos palaria. Daca nu, at poate data viitoare te vei abtine de la a posta astfel de aberatii.

Cat despre Torchlight MMO, vad ca apare peste 2-3 ani, nu vad cu ce ma incalzeste pe mine asta...Era vorba de Torchlight-ul care apare peste o luna, nu despre MMO-ul care apare cand iese si D3 (lol).

[Mandea]

deci da, mai faci si alte lucruri in jocul asta. devine din ce in ce mai interesant. Torchlight Vanquisher Trailer (HD)

si ii mai dau si editor. Katauri, se aude si la voi acolo? EDITOR.

[mobutu]

Iata si alchimistu'

YouTube - Torchlight Alchemist Trailer

YouTube - Torchlight Alchemist Trailer

[Sir Dracu]

only 20 bucks :|

[Sir Dracu]

YouTube - Torchlight Dev Diary 1

YouTube - Torchlight Dev Diary 1

Runic Games's singleplayer dungeon crawler receives a downloadable PC release on October 27 for $20, complete with the editor Runic used to create everything from its levels and quests to classes and monsters. A Torchlight MMO is planned to follow.

[Sir Dracu]

Pana la DAO, ne relaxam cu asta Torchlight for PC - Preview - G4tv.com

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YouTube - Torchlight Dev Diary 2

[mobutu]

Asta'i (cred) prima imagine pe care'o vad cu equipment/attributes

[Mandea]

Torchlite Now Available For Pre-Order - Voodoo Extreme
hai cu el ca sunt nerabdator.

[Sir Dracu]

Runic Games, Dungeon Masters: The Torchlight Interview, Part I > Video Game News | Crispy Gamer
Runic Games, Dungeon Masters: The Torchlight Interview, Part II > Video Game News | Crispy Gamer

[Mandea]

oau, unele idei sunt superbe, sper ca blizzard sa se inspire pt ca unele chiar merita furate. se vede ca lucreaza unii care au fost si pe la blizzard, jucabilitatea si a imbunatatirea ei se simt.

[mobutu]

Pentru cine vrea sa vada editoru' (free) in actiune:
Torchlight: Editor Guide #1 Feature - Game Trailers, Game Reviews, Gameplay Videos at VideoGamer.com
Torchlight: Editor Guide #2 Feature - Game Trailers, Game Reviews, Gameplay Videos at VideoGamer.com
Torchlight: Editor Guide #3 Feature - Game Trailers, Game Reviews, Gameplay Videos at VideoGamer.com

Interview/gameplay (nice)
GameSpot Video: TOTS Demo: Torchlight

[Sir Dracu]

'Torchlight' Goes Gold


Torchlight is being developed in Seattle team by a veteran team composed of the designers and leads of projects like Diablo, Diablo II, Mythos, and Fate. Our team has spent many years honing and evolving this unique style of gameplay.
The adventure is set in the mining settlement of Torchlight, a boomtown founded on the discovery of rich veins of Ember - a rare and mysterious ore with the power to enchant or corrupt all that it contacts. This corruptive power may have dire consequences however, and players set out into the nearby mountains and depths below to discover the full extent of Ember’s influence on the civilizations that have come before.
Runic Games will initially release Torchlight as a standalone Single Player game, Torchlight will be released in the latter part of 2009 as a download or in box. Following the single player release, work will commence on a fully-featured MMO version.
Single-Player Version
Players will choose from among three character classes, and venture from the safety of the town of Torchlight into randomly generated dungeon levels, with a huge variety of creepy monsters, endless variations of loot to find, and quests to complete. The endless randomization ensures a long-lived gameplay experience.
Key Features:

1. Randomization – Our level layouts are randomly created, so each adventure is unique. Monsters, treasures, puzzles, and items are also different each time you embark on an adventure.
2. Easy, approachable interface – Torchlight is designed to be easy to play right from the beginning. The intuitive interface gives players easy access to a rich and varied world.
3. Retirement System – Once characters are sufficiently leveled up, they can "retire" and bestow specific benefits and perks to new characters.
4. Pets – Players will choose a pet to accompany them. Pets can level up along with the player, and will help in battle, carry items, and perform a variety of helpful services.
5. Character Classes – Players will create and customize a character and choose an animal companion. Through cosmetic choices, skill path decisions, and the treasures they acquire, each character will be custom-tailored and different.
6. Fishing – Players can take a break from the high-energy pace of adventuring to visit one of the fishing holes and relax and see what they can catch. Fish have interesting benefits for the player and pet, and other rewards can also be discovered
7. Included Editor – Runic Games is embracing our modding community by including an editor so our players can create and design their own content.

MMO Version
The Torchlight MMO expands on virtually every aspect of gameplay. While maintaining the fast-paced Action RPG gameplay style, Torchlight will introduce many traditional MMO features and an expansive world. Like the other Perfect World-published MMOs, Torchlight will be "Free-To-Play." Players can earn and spend money to upgrade a large variety of items to enhance their game play experience through an in-game item shop.
Published by Perfect World, the Torchlight MMO will offer a rich social environment where players can adventure together in a contiguous over world environment with many different dungeon types to explore. Populated by a diverse and colorful set of vendors, quest-givers, and town elders, players will learn about the rich lore and history of Torchlight and the surrounding Ember veins, and set off on quests and adventures that reveal the secrets, dangers, and long history of the magical substance.
Key MMO Additions

1. Expansive World – Large overland areas and deep, randomly generated dungeons offer a variety of exploration and adventuring opportunities.
2. Customization – The level of character customization is upped significantly in the MMO, with more class choices, looks, and options which allow a truly personalized character.
3. Territory Wars – Torchlight will take advantage of precedent set by other Perfect World MMOs and offer weekly battles for territory, with winners receiving significant rewards.
4. Mounts – Large variety of mounts to assist in navigating the world.
5. PvP – Torchlight will give PvP fans a variety of constructs to determine just who the mightiest warrior in the land is.
6. Social Features – Marriage systems, buddy lists, chat features, and world events will all create a rich social environment never before seen in an action MMO.

Torchlight will be available as a fully downloadable game for US$19.99.

[Bossman]

După 2 zile de download cu mirifica viteză de 6KB, it's here (review code-ul that is).

Prima impresie: Diablo is back. In a very cartoonish sort of way.

Momentan n-am jucat decât o oră, ataşez câteva imagini ca să mă bag înapoi la omor (joc ca Alchemist prima tură).

Dacă aveţi întrebări vizavi de joc, vă stau la dispoziţie, dar până acum impresia este una bună.