Divine Divinity & Beyond Divinity (Riftrunner)

[EvilGod]

deci pana la urma in septembrie ajunge la noi ?

[Dead Ghost]

Cam asa... Atunci apare vers. in limba engleza...

[Baz19]

AM vazut shi yo screenshoturile de la Divine-divinity...shi ce sa zic....de abia astept sa pun mana pe el.....sa inndoi un pik mousu...ca de cand cu bacu shi examenele astea...nu am mai mancat nici un pik de RpG

[Dead Ghost]

"CDV let us know that the UK version of their RPG developed by Larian Studios, Divine Divinity, is now GOLD and is going to hit stores on 13th September. "

[Dead Ghost]

A aparut si pe net...Are 3 cd-uri.

[Dead Ghost]

Vad ca nu prea va inghesuiti la el...pacat ...Sa nu va lasati convinsi de falsa-impresie ca ar fi o clona Diablo.

[Alfa]

Se lucreaza...sper sa merite!

[EvilGod]

Alfa hit me a link @ godkzn@lycos.co.uk

[Alfa]

DC++(dev-dd).
Sper ca nu este warez...

[Dead Ghost]

Un review care sper sa va lumineze cam cum este jocul:

"There was a time, not that long ago, when you could clearly say that the PC role playing game was officially dead. It had come in late at night, battered and bruised from too many first person shooters and now lay on the mortuary slab with one of those little name tags attached to a toe.

Publishers were reluctant to publish them and so games developers were reluctant to create them. It was a vicious circle, or at least quite an untamed one. Then Baldur’s Gate came along, and the corpse was well and truly brought back to life.

Since then he’s been up and about and dancing all over the place. There was a brief fling with Planescape Torment a few years back, a quick waltz with Icewind Dale before dinner and recently a night on the town with Neverwinter Nights – he got dressed up in his best 3D costume for that one. So how does Divine Divinity fare, the latest release from Belgian software house Larian studios?

The first thing that should be said is not to pay too much attention to the name of the game. So what if it doesn’t actually mean anything? RPG players are used to obscure and sometimes even confusing nomenclature, it is, after all, the gameplay that matters. Fortunately here, gameplay is king.

You start out by selecting a character from the six usual suspects. Nothing particularly original amongst them, a male and a female version of three classes, the warrior, the magician and the thief (called for some reason a survivor). Each character has a different voice set and you can even change their portrait if you like, though you cannot import your own from an outside source. Gameplay consists of moving your character in the 2D isometric world, solving quests, talking to NPCs and hacking the back legs off monsters, though not necessarily in that order.

First impressions strike you as a clone of another game, this time by Blizzard and which shall henceforth be known only as “The Other Game”. Moving your character is the same, the bottom interface bar with health and magic bars is the same, heck even the font looks similar. However, Larian studios is quick to point out that Divine Divinity is not simply a remake and if you look a little deeper into the title it’s easy to see why.

Divine Divinity is a true classic RPG like the old school games of yesteryear. The first thing that you notice is how detailed the graphics are. Water pools in muddy gardens which reflect your character in real-time. Baskets of carrots sit in sunny orchards and beehives at the back of houses give way to cornfields where white rabbits scamper and play. Even more interesting is that everything here can be manipulated. Pick up the carrots and eat them to refill you health. Put jars in the beehives to collect honey for a nice snack or brutally cull the rabbits and collect their meat to fill your belly. The whole world created here teems with life. Butterflies flit around the trees and bushes, birds flock overhead and boars roam the forest. It can’t be stressed enough just how much this adds to the game. Most of the time you could just stand there and wonder.

Another nice addition is mushrooms and herbs which can be mixed with empty flasks to create potions and you can even find rotting food to make poison potions which then can either be thrown at enemies or applied to weapons or even your own skin. It really is remarkable how much attention has been made to the small things in this game. Move pillows in bedrooms and you’ll find hidden keys to open chests. Trapdoors under boxes reveal passageways into cellars. Even objects which you cannot use can still be manipulated or moved from place to place.

Talking to NPCs is excellent in Divine Divinity. Most of them have full speech and the voiceovers aren’t bad for a game with a smaller budget than its rivals. An attitude scale reflects their reactions towards you and obviously insulting them about their parent’s marital status means you’re not going to get the best barter prices if you then decide to trade with them.

When it comes to the old rough and tumble, combat is surprisingly similar to “The Other Game” but rather than becoming a click-fest you only need to click an enemy once for your character to fight them to the death. Using skills that you learn at every level-up is also easy. You can assign them to the right mouse button by browsing through the ones available and before long you’re casting meteor spells and summoning followers with the best of them. Each of the three classes also has a special move such as the warriors “round” attack which hits all nearby enemies at once.

Sound effects are good as well. Orchestral music tracks grace the main title page and they really are very good. They also change to reflect the current state of play, wander into a cursed abbey for example and you’ll get the cawing of ravens which increase the atmosphere immensely. Each character has their own voice set and there’s quite a bit of speech. Carry too much and your warrior or wizard will tell you about it, as will trying to use a jar for a weapon for example (although you can use a saucepan for a helmet – which just goes to show how much attention to detail the designers have). The music also has pseudo latin chanting in it, similar to Heroes of Might and Magic which sets the medieval tone nicely throughout.

Summing up this game is easy. Not since Baldur’s Gate has there been a better 2D RPG. Once you start you’ll not want to stop because the game is brilliant. You’ll get over 300 quests to solve according to Larian and not of the “fetch and carry” variety either. The graphics are sublime despite there being no polygons in sight. You won’t get bare caverns and towns of Icewind Dale here, you’ll get a cellar full of dozens of bottles all of which can be moved. You’ll get barns where you can make beds out of hay with pitchforks outside that can be used as weapons. This game has it all. If you like your RPGs done with verve and style in a world clearly created as a labour of love you can do no better. There’s even humour in it with references to Terry Pratchett and a pair of skeletons arguing about why it is they don’t fall apart when they move, and just where do their voices come from? Amazing!


This is Divine Divinity. The title is not wrong.

Score 5/5
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Eu am jucat demoul (care era destul de lung,btw) si mi-a placut f. mult...

[daJudge]

in PCGAMER UK a luat 58%. deci va dati seama ca e ceva in neregula cu jocul asta. adica e nashpa. prin revista zicaeau ca devine mult pre repetitiv si plictisitor. si asta RPD.

[Dead Ghost]

Deci:

1) 85% PC Zone UK
2)98% GamesXtreme.net (aici)
3)4\5 The Guardian (aici)
4)5\5 PC Gaming.com (aici)
5)91% Gen 4 (France)
6)85% PC Gameplay (Benelux)
7)84% Power Unlimited (Benelux)
8)85% ProGamerz.com (aici)
9)83% Krawall.de (aici)
10)85% GameZone.de (aici)


Ajung??? Si o sa mai apara...si o sa le postez ...Trebuie sa mai zic ca jocul este superb!?!? Pt. cei care au cablu&stuff vedeti ca exista un demo de 400 mb dupa care va puteti face o idee...

[Assassin]

Originally posted by daJudge
in PCGAMER UK a luat 58%. deci va dati seama ca e ceva in neregula cu jocul asta. adica e nashpa. prin revista zicaeau ca devine mult pre repetitiv si plictisitor. si asta RPD.

Zanzarah The Hidden Portal a luat pe un site nemtesc un jenant scor de 55%, si nu din cauza ca jocu' nu ar fi bun, ci deoarece autoru' review-ului e dus cu pluta. I-a dat un scor mic deoarece:
1. Grafica nu i se pare asa de misto comparativ cu Halo si Unreal II (comparatie absolut cretina, Zanzarah are o grafica superba).
2. Gameplay obositor - cica a jucat cateva ore si nu a putut sa isi dea seama ce are de facut (cre'ca macar stie sa duca lingura cu supa la gura).
3. Sunetele nu sunt iesite din comun (probabil era surd daca nu a auzit vocile clare, cu intonatii si muzica incantatoare din meniu).
Ma rog, asa sunt review-urile facute dupa ureche, dupa doar 2-3 ore de joc. Si la noi in Ro se poarta, asa ca dc nu si la case mai mari.

Revenind, daca tot vb de snobisme, cand am jucat demo-u' (capabil de doar 800x600) m-a enervat perspectiva. Grafica e ok. Asta nu inseamna ca nu mi-a placut, am jucat la el in disperare 2 zile (cica terminasem 5% din joc).
Acu', privind versiunea retail, inainte sa intru in joc am strambat nitel din nas gandindu-ma la aceeasi perspectiva si grafica, aspecte deloc imbunatatite fata de versiunea demo, insa am trecut si mai rpd peste ele (joc in 1024x768), si mi-am adus aminte din nou de gameplay. N-am judecat si nici nu voi judeca niciodata un joc dpdv al graficii, pe mine ma intereseaza povestea, atmosfera si gameplay-u'.

In curand veti citi un review pe prima pagina. Intentioneaz sa ii dau peste 85, ma mai gandesc, depinde ce bug-uri (mai) gasesc si cum evolueaza jocu'.

Wait©

[Burghy]

Mutumesc mult!

Incercasem demoul si ma enervase rau de tot perspectiva si am zis ca jocu asta eu nu-l joc(imi dadea o oarecare impresie de amestecatura nereusita).

Insa vazandu-l cum il laudati i-am mai dat o sansa si sunt f fericit.
Cat despre grafica, un singur lucru am de spus: DETALII(aaa, si cand treci pe langa o baltuta si te vezi reflexia carecturului in ea iti tresalta inima de bucurie)

[Viracocha]

Hmm, desi jocul este foarte misto, ma enerveaza cumplit dozarea dificultatii. Exemplu: se da una bucata padure, orc infested. Omor lejer vreo 20 de orc warriors si orc archers si apare UN SINGUR orc elite care imi da o bucata si ma trimite la load game. Exemplul e general, peste tot in joc sunt zone d-astea. Monstrii normali sunt relativ usor de curatat, dar bossi sunt absolut criminali. A aparut si un patch care ii face mai usor de omorat, dar nu l-am luat inca.
Problema e ca, din cauza bossilor astora, sunt zone ale hartii complet incaccesibile. Din pacate, zonele alea trebuiesc vizitate daca vrei sa avansezi in joc.
Si inca o chestie. Desi am jucat destul de mult, nu am descoperit decat un singur merchant, in satul unde incepi jocul, care, din motive de scenariu, acum este inaccesibil .
In plus, avansezi mult prea greu in nivel. Omor 100k de carcaieci si d-abia daca urca bara de experienta o line. Omor (super mega greu) un boss d-ala gen orc elite si fac level up. Fuckin' strange. Io nu m-as grabi cu 85%, ca sa zic asa. Nici de 50% nu e, nici pe departe, dar 85% presupune o doza de "polish", sau "balance" sau whatever, doza care jocul asta nu o are. Inca.

[Zircon]

Adeveresc si eu ce a spus Viracocha. Bine, eu am depasit faza cu Orc Elite si sunt la cea cu Troll King si Mega Orc or smth Oricum, imi aduce aminte mult de jocuri vechi gen Ultima, Alqadim, samd.

edit: Jocul nu este insa chiar atat de dezechilibrat. Nimeni nu te pune sa omori toti monstrii de pe harta in momentul in care ai dat de ei. Ba din contra. Mai tarziu poti sa omori orice daca ai suficiente potiuni.

edit2: depinde imens clasa. Magul are cateva vraji nesimtite. Sunt si cateva probleme de conceptie: scorpionii lui peste in custi ...

[h0stile]

M-am jucat si eu o ora asta dupa ce l-am instalat de 2 ori ptr ca sub XP imi facea ofaza destul de naspa. Imi facea scroll la imagine in stanga/dreapt si sus dar cand vroiam si jos cucu. Intai am crezut ca asa trebuie sa faca scroll dar pana la urma m-am ofticat si l-am instalat sub 98 unde merge perfect. Due, jocul nu este 2D din moment ce are accelerare D3D si Glide. Nu credeam ca in 2002 mai ies joace cu accelerare ptr Glide. Sub D3D in 640*480 arata si merge ffff ok so nu m-am ambalat in a folosi rez mari unde ca de obicei nu mai vezi literele si asta pe un monitor de 17. O chestie care m-a deranjat foarte tare a fost cand ala de la poarta care s-a batut cu orcii mi-a spus sa caut nu stiu ce comandant si mi-a cerut harta sa-mi arate. Pe harta nu era marcat nimic si am cautat pana mi-au iesit peri albi casa respectiva (ca sa nu mai spun ca toate casele arata la fel in orasul ala). Cam asta a fost prima intalnire si cred ultima cu joculetu asta ptr ca ieri am sters save-urile din greseala si nu mai petrec alta ora vorbind cu toti si cautand comandanti si ierburi prin gradinile altora (cica_quest sa caut o iarba in gradina lu unu lol). Parca e prea multa vorbaraie, prea mult de mers (aiurea) si questuri stupide. Mai mult de 75 eu nu i-as da insa nu m-am jucat destul cat sa ma edific (si nici nu cred ca o sa mai joc). Anyway, un joc la fel ca orice altceva trebuie sa te atraga de la inceput, prima impresie conteaza enorm, iar aici Divine Divinity chiar a dat-o bara.

[Assassin]

Si eu mi-am ales o femeie mag, desi vad ca nu sunt diferente intre sexe, aceasta impartire este o grija in plus din partea producatorilor privind dialogurile sonore (btw, jocu' a aparut si in chineza si in japonza...). O avea magu' vraji nesimtite, da' la inceput e greu, nu ai mana destula, banii sunt putini, plus ca nu poa' cara la fel de mult ca un barbar. Am ales mag deoarece am vazut intr-un filmulet cateva vraji misto si intotdeauna am fost adeptu' conceptului "la inceput e mai nasol, da' apoi rup tot"
Oricum, indiferent cu cine joci nu cre'ca sunt diferente privind quest-urile, in general privind modul in care parcurgi jocu'

Iar tu IQz3r0 sa taci Asa ai zis si de Zanzarah (vad ca e a doua oara cand fac referire la el in cadru' acestui topic, le nimeresc la greu) Poti face diferite adnotari pe harta, iar in 1024x760 se vede perfect.

[h0stile]

O fi fost Zanzarah misto dar nu a atras prea multa lume din cate am vazut. La fel se intampla si cu Earth 2150. Moonetu e gol. Ori se joaca toti singleplayer ceea ce nu imi vine sa cred ori nu prea a avut priza la public. Anyway.....stiu ca poti face adnotari pe harta la DD dar cand ala mi-a cerut harta sa i-o dau sa-mi arate unde e casa nu mi-a aparut nimic nicaieri. Plus ca ideea asta cu fog of war in oras e cam idioata. Dupa ce ca toate casele, repet, arata la fel mai bajbai si prin intuneric dupa ac. Eu nu m-am jucat in 1024*768 ptr ca obiectele sunt foarte mici si risti sa te chinui sa iei ceva anume dupa o masa unde sunt mai multe chestii ingramadite.

PS Este o mare diferenta intre un joc bun si unul cu priza la public. Factorii care il determina sa fie considerat bun sau sa aiba priza la public nu sunt aceiasi. O fi fost Zanzarah un joc bun (mie unul nu mi-a placut atat de mult incat sa scoata la iveala latura feminina din mine, prefer Lula ) insa cu siguranta nu a avut priza la public (poate si dat faptului ca nu a fost lansat si in state si nu i s-a facut atata reclama ceea ce este intr-adevar pacat). Merita mai mult, asta da.

[Assassin]

Originally posted by IQz3r0
Plus ca ideea asta cu fog of war in oras e cam idioata. Dupa ce ca toate casele, repet, arata la fel mai bajbai si prin intuneric dupa ac. Eu nu m-am jucat in 1024*768 ptr ca obiectele sunt foarte mici si risti sa te chinui sa iei ceva anume dupa o masa unde sunt mai multe chestii ingramadite.

Daca apesi ALT iti arata toate obiectele din jur pe care le poti lua. Apropo, poti muta diferite pietre, lazi etc pentru a gasi diverse chestii