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Old 26-09-2007, 08:39   #1 (permalink)
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[PS3] How to stream media from PC

Ok, stiu ca exista multe alte tutoriale pe internet, o sa va explic pe scurt varianta mea verificata si eventualele probleme aparute.

De ce aveti nevoie:
Hardware: PS3, PC, retea intre PC si PS3
Software: PS3 Firmware 1.80+, PC Nero MediaHome (gasit in pachetul nero 7 premium/ultra)

De ce Nero MediaHome ? Pai in principiu vine intr-un pachet de programele pe care le-ati putea avea deja instalate pentru a scrie CD/DVD. Al doi-lea si poate cel mai important motiv este ca stie de on-the-fly transcoding.

Odata cu instalarea Nero MediaHome veti avea instalat si Nero Scout. Nero Scout este un serviciu de indexare care creeaza o baza de date accesibila de catre MediaHome (din pacate nu o face foarte bine).

Nu o sa parcurg pasii de configurare a Nero Scout si a MediaHome pentru ca sunt self explaining ca sa ma exprim asa.
Practic se porneste MediaHome si pe PS3 ar trebui sa apara numele serverului media.

In schimb o sa vorbim de micile probleme ce apar la folosirea Nero Scout.

O sa aveti un task pornit ce o sa pape aleatoriu resurse indexand folderele sharuite.
De obicei le va indexa prost Si anume (problema apuruta la mine doar in directorul cu filme) va indexa ceva ce nu exista.
Aceasta creeaza o problema, si anume un folder inacesibil nici de pe PC nici de pe PS3.
PS3-ul va spune "Network Error" cand incercati sa accesati "All Movies", daca accesati "By Album" o sa vedeti media dvs. + un folder "Unknown Album".

Daca aveti bifata optiunea "Integrate Nero Scout in Windows Explorer" in setarile Nero Scout, veti vedea exact ce a fost indexat accesand "My Computer > Nero Scout".

In MediaHome puteti selecta "Share individual folders only", astfel nu veti mai intalni problema de mai sus cu Unknown Album. Cand selectati aceasta optiune trebuie sa activati "Index Now" din optiunile Nero Scout altfel media nu va apare pana cand nu va fi indexata.
Dupa ce media a fost indexata, puteti opri/dezactiva Nero Scout.

Avantaje: Puteti vedea pe PS3 tot ce aveti in calculator (poze/filme/audio) indiferent de format/encodare (Video XviD/Divx, etc)
Dezavantaje: Va bazati pe puterea calculatorului pentru a face transcoding, la materialele SD pe al meu AthlonXP 2100+ a mers fara nici o problema, la rularea unui HD 720p encodat XviD povestea fost cu totul alta (5-10 framerates)

Daca n-am fost coerent in exprimare va rog sa ma corectati.
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Old 29-09-2007, 13:42   #2 (permalink)
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Se poate si mai simplu cu WMP 11 in Vista.

Eu acum incerc sa gasesc un NAS storage cu uPNP pentru acelasi scop.
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Old 30-09-2007, 00:43   #3 (permalink)
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Prima oara cand fac streaming (prima mea consola) am vazut un film pe youtoubge cu ps3 media center X si am facut exact ce mea zis si a mers din prima download >install> bagi urlu in ps3 browser>ei fisere de pe pc. Tre sa tii programu deschis atat tot nici o setare pm ,daca doriti website ,guide etc


(NU iti trebuie nimic in plus fata de ce ai deja in ps3)
 
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Old 30-09-2007, 10:54   #4 (permalink)
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Sunt constient ca exista mai multe metode pentru streaming, insa Nero Media Home suporta transcoding si functioneaza aproape perfect.
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Old 30-09-2007, 12:56   #5 (permalink)
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agree dar pare putin complicat, acest mediacenter de ps3 x pur si simplu deschizi programu cand esti pe pc,intri pe browser(din ps3) scrii ipu si iti vede tot computeru si alegi ce sa copiezi ( logic ca unele chesti le convertesti sa nu fie unsuported data)
 
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Old 30-09-2007, 14:39   #6 (permalink)
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Pai streaming nu inseamna sa copiezi de pe pc pe ps3 ... le "vezi" direct prin retea, live.

Uite un video ca sa-ti faci o idee despre ce este vorba
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Old 30-09-2007, 18:53   #7 (permalink)
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Da my bad, amandoua variante is ok ,dar mie imi convine mai mult pe a mea pare putin cam slow asta.
 
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Old 01-10-2007, 07:12   #8 (permalink)
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Putin offtopic : a reusit cineva sa ruleze .mkv-uri pe PS3 fara sa trebuiasca recodat materialul video?
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Old 16-10-2007, 10:57   #9 (permalink)
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Update, MediaHome nu streamuieste .mkv-uri catre ps3.
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am incercat cu nero ...se vede pe ps3 serverul da apare data corupta cind accesesz de pe ps3 file avi ,basca ca formaturile mkv nici nero 8 nu stie de ele...
exista alceva mai bun ps3mediacentru ala de unde se poate lua sau ceva sa pot vedea de pe pc filmele in hd si nu numai
 
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Old 12-11-2007, 18:18   #11 (permalink)
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cam aceeasi intrebare o am si eu :

folosind un hard extern atasat la PS3, hard cu filme in HD, pot vedea filmele in format mkv pe Playstation?
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Old 12-11-2007, 18:26   #12 (permalink)
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am reusit sa vad pe ps3 doar cu otiunea mpeg 1...se vede jenant ce sa mai vorbesc de sunet ca e stereo...nu 5.1 si subtritari nimic....e jalnic nero mediahome...sau ps3 la multimedia
 
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Old 12-11-2007, 19:13   #13 (permalink)
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PS3 nu stie de container .mkv, deci nu o sa poti decat daca schimbi containerul sau ceva.
poti in schimb sa le transformi in mp4 sau vob
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daca materialul este comprimat cu un codec pe care-l stie ps3-ul si respectiv intr-un container de acelasi fel nu se va mai face transcoding, ar trebui sa lasi autodetect la optiunile mediahome.

Eu transform mkv-urile in mp4 sau in vob, depinde daca vreau sunet 5.1 sau nu.
Respectiv h264/aac in mp4 sau h264/ac3 in vob.

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Acestea sunt codecurile AV suportate:
Audio: AAC, WAV, MP3, ATRAC
Video: MPEG-1, MPEG-2, MPEG-4 SP, MPEG-4 AVC/H.264 profil 4.1
Si vorbind despre containerul MP4, acesta suporta:
Audio: Advanced Audio Coding (AAC): Quicktime/iTunes, Nero, Psytel, FAAC, MP3, MP2, MP1, CELP (speech), TwinVQ (very low bitrates), SAOL (midi), ALS (lossless)
Video: MPEG-4 SP/ASP: XviD, DivX5, 3ivx, ffmpeg/ffdshow, NeroDigital ASP, MPEG-4 AVC/H.264, NeroDigital AVC, Apple, MPEG-2

Si acum daca ne uitam la ce suporta PS3, intr-un MP4 putem pune:
Audio: AAC, MP3
Video: MPEG-2, MPEG-4 SP, MPEG-4 AVC/H.264 (profil 4.1)

Cea mai simpla cale si cea mai rapida de a transforma un mkv in mp4 (pentru un mkv care are formatul video intr-unul suportate de PS3) este PS3 Video 9 cu profilul MKV passthrough.
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Old 13-11-2007, 09:57   #14 (permalink)
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singura format video care il suporta ps3 este mpeg1 la nero mediahome transcoding... probabil trebe instalat linuxu pe ps3 ...am incercat toate combinatiile si apare format corupt si sunetul stereo la format dvd ...si la orce....deci ps3 e o mare porcarie la media ..deocamdata
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Old 13-11-2007, 12:23   #15 (permalink)
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Mai omule, nero media home ala iti ia fisierul cacat.avi care este encodat xvid sa zicem si incearca sa-l transcodeze intr-un codec suportat de ps3, automat el e destept (cel putin la mine) si isi alege singur ce si cum, chiar daca iese mpeg1.
Daca nu vrei sa iasa mpeg1 da-i cu ffmpeg in gura si fa-l tu mp4/vob encodat cu h264/aac sau ac3. Insa encodingul asta dureaza foarte mult, nero incearca sa faca transcode in timp real.
O alta chestie, ca-ti arata tie fisierul ca mpeg1 in xmb e o treaba, cand ii dai play apasa pe /\ sau select si-ti va apare sus o bara cu informatii mai detaliate (codec audio/video bitrate)
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merci pentru informatii rakware, cred ca pina la urma o sa astept sa iasa un player mkv pe piata...
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Old 13-11-2007, 20:17   #17 (permalink)
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Sa spui ca astepti "sa iasa un player mkv pe piata" e un fel de chestia cu vulpea si strugurii. Daca vrei sa faci ceva in privinta asta, pune-te pe treaba, ca exista o gramada de soft-uri pt media server cu real time transcoding. Player mkv pt ps3 (in firmware) ma indoiesc ca o sa apara, iar in linux deja exista. Player standalone mkv (sa inlocuiasca playstation-ul) din nou, ma indoiesc ca o sa apara dat fiind ca mpg/h264 e o alternativa mult mai buna.
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pai player MKV a iesit.. se numeste TVIX .. google it...

PS3 va suporta divx incepand cu noul update .. happy news for everyone... MKV nu cred k vor fi suportate .. insa e bine si cu divx :P
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Old 13-11-2007, 21:40   #19 (permalink)
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MKV Remux / x264/AC3 5.1
Aceasta aplicatie permite "transformarea" containerelor mkv encodate h264/ac3 intr-un format acceptat PS3. Metoda este cea mai rapida pentru ca nu se face nici un fel de encodare, succes!
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m-am pus pe treaba de acum vreo 2 luni - mi-am facut un HTPC - dar vroiam ceva facut de fabrica,nu de mine... si ma gindeam ca poate in PS3 imbin utilul cu placutul. Cit despre TVIX stiam ca erau pe punctul de a revizui un firmware care sa decodezi si mkv, dar nu stiam ca a si iesit.
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