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Thread: INTEL Skylake vs AMD Zen

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    Din ce vad, path-ul rezolva varianta 3 fara a fi nevoie si de actualizare de BIOS (cea in care AMD isi declara procesoarele invulnerabile).
    Impactul asupra performantei a fost zero la mine in cazul jocurilor online, scorul la procesor a fost chiar mai mare in PT (+400 pct.) si am sesizat o usoare crestere de performanta la transcodari. Sporurile sunt mici si pot fi incadrate in marja de eroare, important este ca nu am vazuri penalizari la ce ma intereseaza.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AStateOfMind View Post
    Foarte interesant. Sa vedem pretul.... ca trebuie sa ii iau alt laptop sotiei.
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    Problema e veche chiar de ani de zile

    Cred doar ca nu multi utilizatori casnici stiau de lucrul asta. Pentru mine n-a fost o surpriza decat dimensiunea problemei.

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    Zen+ imbunatatiri minore in frecventa - un castig de 10% pare varianta optimista.
    Interesante par APU-urile care vin cu 4c/4t si 4c/8t cu GPU bunicel - aproape de gt1030 sau rx 550.
    Plus taieri de preturi, normale dealtfel, la actuala generatie zen.

    Pe partea de procesoare sta bine piata - foarte prost cu ramii si placile video din pacate.

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    Nu văd să apară pe nicăieri data de când vor începe să se ieftinească Ryzen-urile. E doar o idee momentan și nu se știe de când va intra in vigoare sau urmează să se întâmple ASAP ?
    Chiar am în plan luna aceasta mai pe la mijloc să investesc într-o platformă cu Ryzen 1700 sau 1700x.

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    Ar trebui sa se intample ASAP. Bine la noi e un decalaj de obicei de vreo luna. Oricum AMD goleste stocurile pentru Ryzen refresh din aprilie.

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    Preturile deja ar trebui sa fie scazute pe marile site-uri de afara. La noi poate mai dureaza insa nu are cum sa dureze prea mult. Eu as astepta pentru ca 1800x a suferit o taiere de 150USD si ar trebui sa poata fi cumparat la un lret putin peste cat costa acum 1700.

    So asteapta 1800x - in putin timp ar trebui sa coboare la 1500ron-1600ron.

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    Pai deja s-a ieftinit, Ryzen 1800x apare "redus" de la 2500lei la 1750lei: https://www.price.ro/preturi-amd-ryz...3.6ghz-1545260
    PCGarage 1750lei (cu "reducere"): Procesor AMD Ryzen 7 1800X 3.6GHz box - PC Garage
    EvoMag apare direct cu noul pret de 1750lei: Procesor AMD Ryzen 7 1800X, 3.6 GHz, AM4, 16MB, 95W (BOX) - evoMAG.ro

    Ca fapt divers, de BF2017 Ryzen 1800x a fost 1400lei la emag.

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    NSA discovered Intel security issue in 1995 (pdf)

    3.10 Cache and TLB Timing Channels

    As mentioned in the preceding scenario, caches present potential for covert timing channels. Even without MSRs for direct measurements of cache activity, cache hits and misses can be detected strictly from instruction timing, as described in [Wray91]. To eliminate these flows, caches must be managed. This can reduce their efficiency considerably, depending on cache architecture, as it introduces otherwise unnecessary cache flush and invalidation activity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dic1 View Post

    Ca fapt divers, de BF2017 Ryzen 1800x a fost 1400lei la emag.
    BF2017 Emag - a fost de fapt 1450 lei.
    never say never...
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    Aaa, da, am ramas gresit cu 1400lei. Valoarea de 1450lei e cam pretul de lista de acum (ah, daca nu ar fi TVA)...
    Au aparut primele modele cu Ryzen mobile: https://www.techpowerup.com/240471/a...ces-2018-booth
    Nu inteleg de ce apar inca sisteme cu HDD (HP Pavilion AIO are un HDD de 2TB, puteau sa puna si un SSD de 120GB langa).

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    Intel Releases CPU Benchmarks with Meltdown and Spectre Mitigations
    The SYSmark 2014 SE overall results showed a moderate decrease in CPU performance between 6% to 8% with the i7-6700K the being the most affected. System responsiveness took the biggest hit with performance dropping up to 21% on the i7-6700K. The Responsiveness scenario tested activities like application launches, application installation, web browsing with many tabs open, file copies, photo manipulation, and multi-tasking - all of which are heavily influenced by the type of storage. So, don't let that i7-6700K with the hard drive result fool you. PCMark 10 registered penalties in the range of 3% to 4% with the i7-7920HQ being least affected.

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    Hmm, alta problema aiurea dupa update (iar multe Xeoane sunt Haswell in datacenters): Intel Acknowledges Higher Reboots Affecting "Haswell" and "Broadwell"

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    ███ CUMPAR procesoare Intel 1150 Haswell Haswell Refresh Celeron Pentium i3 i5 i7

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    Quote Originally Posted by dic1 View Post
    Hmm, alta problema aiurea dupa update (iar multe Xeoane sunt Haswell in datacenters): Intel Acknowledges Higher Reboots Affecting "Haswell" and "Broadwell"
    Abia astept sa se umple piata de Xeoane sh la preturi modice.

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