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    Registered User dic1's Avatar
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    Ma refer la Ryzen 5 2400G acum.
    Conform guru3d pretul ar fi 170$, in Europa ar fi 170Eu+TVA, adica minim 950ei la noi (170Eur x 1.19 TVA x 4.70 curs): AMD Ryzen 5 2400G Vs Core i5-8400 Gaming Benchmarks
    Probabil ca va aparea la magazinele noastre cu vreo 1100lei si apoi ii baga o reducere de 10-15% peste o luna.
    Daca la partea de GPU va fi un fel de RX550, sunt curios cum va fi pe partea de CPU. Cel mai probabil ca are arhitectura procesoarelor mobile Zen, un singur CCX 4c/8t. Teoretic ar trebui sa fie mai rapid decat Ryzen 1500x in jocuri, chiar daca are 4MB fata de 16MB cache L3, are in plus 100MHz (200MHz turbo) si este fara latenta infinity bus (inter-CCX).

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    Interesant, similar cu procesoarele Xeon socket 771 ce functioneaza pe placile de baza socket 775 cu mici modificari, cu siguranta ca vor aparea pe viitor procesoare Epyc ieftine pe placi de baza de Threadripper.
    https://www.techpowerup.com/241072/a...99-motherboard

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    O problema e ca de fapt nu merge, face doar PO din POST si nu booteaza.
    A doua problema, cel putin pentru gaming, e ca nu toate core-urile sunt egale, nu sunt toate conectate direct la busul pe care e placa video (daca imi amintesc corect ce am citit despre Epyc).

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    Mda, ulterior am citit pe indetele. Macar e un pas in fata, poate sa apara ceva pe viitor. Oricum, in urmatorii 2-3 ani nu cred ca se vor gasi procesoare Epyc ieftine pe ebay/aliexpres. Procesoarele enterprise apar ieftine pe piata SH dupa ce se schimba serverele la operatorii mari pentru servicii de cloud.

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    Referitor la noile APU Zen, solutia video integrata din Ryzen 5 2400G ar fi undeva intre RX550 si RX560. Sursa: https://www.techpowerup.com/241107/v...through-3dmark

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    Nu au specificat ce RAM au folosit?
    Daca nu scade pretul la RAM nu stiu daca se merita. Pentru a scoate maximum din acel iGPU vei avea nevoie de ram cat mai rapid, de la 3600Mhz in sus.

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    Pai cica suporta dual-channel 2933 mhz, probabil atat au folosit. Pretul memoriilor e o problema temporara, in timp ce performanta iGPU ramane si pot spune ca-i peste asteptari.
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    Nu e chiar o problema temporara. Daca tin bine minte, pe la inceputul anului am citit ca marii producatori de ram prefera sa produca pentru mobile unde exista cerere substantial mai mare si se preconiza ca problema cu ramii se poate intinde pe intregul an 2018.
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    Dupa problemele cu placile video si memoriile, urmeaza asta: Threadripper Pays for Itself Using Cryptocurrency Mining

    "So now AMD will be selling TR direct to miners too so we can't buy those either? LOL!"

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    Profitabilitatea prea mică, spaţiu mult prea mare. Poate să fie o alternativă doar dacă iei platforma pentru altceva, dar mai bagi şi de-un minat când stă idle.

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    Se pare ca Ryzen5 2400G deja este in stoc la emag:
    https://www.emag.ro/procesor-amd-ryz.../pd/DNKNH9BBM/
    Last edited by cyrixcpu; 07-02-2018 at 14:08.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrixcpu View Post
    Se pare ca Ryzen5 2400G deja este in stoc la emag:
    https://www.emag.ro/procesor-amd-ryz.../pd/DNKNH9BBM/
    La ce pret era ?
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    975 lei parca. Poate aberez, dar asa tin minte.
    Clap clap !

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    Era la 790 de lei.

    L.E. Tre' sa rectific, era 779,99 lei, aici ar fi o dovada: AMD Ryzen 5 2400G and AMD Ryzen 3 2200G in stock in Romania : Amd

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    Nu-i rau, mai ales daca iGPU o sa fie la nivelul RX550 cum se speculeaza. Pacat de pretul la DDR4.
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    2400G vs R5 1500X?
    Sunt curios daca cache-ul mai mic va afecta serios performanta, de-asemeni si daca suporta ram cu o frecventa mai mare de 3600Mhz. Oficial vad ca e trecut 2900Mhz.

    Daca da, mi-as lua unu cand scad preturile la ram.

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    Quote Originally Posted by droopy_ro View Post
    La ce pret era ?
    Prețurile erau:

    779,99 Lei
    Procesor AMD Ryzen 5 2400G, 3900 Mhz, Socket AM4 - eMAG.ro
    și
    489,99 Lei
    Procesor AMD Ryzen 3 2200G, 3700 Mhz, Socket AM4 - eMAG.ro
    Vom şti tot iar ce nu vom şti vom afla!

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    A aparut si AGESA 1.1.0.1. Pentru placa mea de baza deja exista update, l-am si aplicat si acum pot rula cu ramii XMP - 3200Mhz. Inainte cu XMP nu pleca deloc si cu setari manuale nu lua 3200Mhz, mergea maxim 2933Mhz. Super fericit!

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