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    https://wccftech.com/intel-core-i7-8...chmarks-rumor/
    Poate fake, dar au facut asta cu Pentium-ul ala deblcat, G3258
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    Interesant i7 8086K... O fi adevarat?

    Au aparut si pe Lab 501 niste prezentari pentru AMD. O sa dau google short links pentru ca, din nu stiu ce motive, linkurile catre lab 501 sunt filtrate de pe forum:
    Pinnacle Ridge – AMD Ryzen 7 2700X & AMD Ryzen 5 2600X – Part I – Reviewer’s pack
    Prezentare – ASUS Crosshair VII Hero Wi-Fi
    Prezentare – AORUS X470 Gaming 7 WiFi
    Prezentare – MSI X470 Gaming M7 AC

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    Interesant de văzut cât de uşor pot fi influenţate rezultatele finale.

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    Ryzen 7 2700X Review - Part 1: Zen Vs Zen+ Vs Intel i7 - YouTube
    Conferinta din Bangkok + 1:15 Get Ready… They’re Nearly Here! | Ryzen Zen+ Preview - YouTube
    Eu personal am cumparat 2700X, sper sa ajunga saptamana asta.

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    Wow! Doar 2 nm diferenta intre Ryzen 7 2700X si Rayzen 7 1700 dar sporul de performanta este de ~10% si asta este doar Ryzen+. Abia astept sa vad Ryzen 2.

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    2700X:

    a) 4,25 GHz pe aer pe toate nucleele, fara cooler de overclocking;
    b) nu am vazut o imbunatatire a gamei de frecvente suportate de RAM in sus - DDR3466-DDR3600 (fara modificare BCLK) pe platforma X370, sa vedem ce poate platforma X470;
    c) 4-4,1GHz la voltaje relativ mici - de la 4,2GHz cere voltaj peste 1,35-1,37V - pretul relativ mic fata de 1800X la lansare, si coolerul stock acceptabil pentru 4GHz reprezinta un atu in plus pentru 2700X;
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    never say never...
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    Cu coolerul Wraith, cam ce temperaturi ai si cat e de zgomotos in load ? Thanks.
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    Ryzen 7 2700x vs Core i7 8700k Test in 8 Games - YouTube
    Inca o ora pana trece NDA-ul si vedem mai bine cum sta treaba.

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    A trecut NDA-ul, au inceput sa apara teste, inclusiv la romanii nostrii cu laboratorul 501. Se confirma ce a aparut prin leaks, e bine spre foarte bine pentru un refresh. Aduceti-va aminte ce oferea Intel la refresh pe la Ha, 100 mhz in plus si zero IPC improvement, mai ales inainte de a fi fortati de AMD sa faca si ei un pas inainte.
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    Din ce vad, e egal cu OC la 4.1 cu 8700k/8600k (stock) in jocuri, ceeace e bine, bravo AMD, nu stiu daca merita sa trec de la 8600k, dar e bine, Ryzen 2 are sanse sa dea de pamant cu Intel.
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    In aceste conditii cred ca vom vedea anul asta 8 core mainstream si de la Intel. De aceea-i buna competitia.

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    Rezultatele Anandtech pe partea de gaming sunt ciudate, e singurul site din cele 'consacrate' unde 2700x e peste (cu mult in functie de joc) 8700k si in 1080p.

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    Ce este interesant,eficienta la 4ghz,de la 1.4v la doar 1.1V,insa nu cred ca merita sa schimb inca r5 1600.O sa astept zen2:


    AMD R7 2700(X) Review: Memory Overclocking, Voltage, Streaming - YouTube

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    Quote Originally Posted by diakpoofaman View Post
    Rezultatele Anandtech pe partea de gaming sunt ciudate, e singurul site din cele 'consacrate' unde 2700x e peste (cu mult in functie de joc) 8700k si in 1080p.
    In our benchmarks, we compared the new AMD chips to the more recent Intel chips, but with the Spectre and Meltdown patches applied. It is clear that the patches have had an effect on some of our Intel scores more than the AMD results: combine that with AMD’s generational improvements and for a lot of tests, especially gaming, there is either a neck-and-neck result or AMD pulls a lead in multi-threaded scenarios.
    Conclusions: Honest Incremental Updates - The AMD 2nd Gen Ryzen Deep Dive: The 2700X, 2700, 2600X, and 2600 Tested

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    Rezultate bune dar pretul e gresit. Sa fim seriosi pentru 30$ diferenta ...?
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    Mi se par ciudate rezultatele de la anandtech. Chiar ei spun: "A number of comments have noted that some of our gaming numbers are different to other publications."
    Poate sunt eu mai obosit in seara asta, dar nu am inteles cum au testat ei 2700X, 2700, 2600X si 2600 in GTA V.

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    Mai este si asta PSA: Intel CPUs with HPET disabled inflate benchmark results by 10% (link in description) : Amd
    It seems like that the Spectre/Meltdown patch on Intel causes machines with HPET off to report higher FPS/scores because the internal CPU clock is off-sync and 1 second in computer time might be slightly longer in real time.
    Asa ca probabil daca iti arata 200 fps, nu inseamna neaparat ca ai 200 fps.

    Page 72 - Ryzen: Strictly technical
    In an open-air test bench (22°C ambient), using a relatively high-end Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme (w/ 68CFM fan) after-market heatsink the temperatures reached 93°C (including 10°C offset) when the CPU was fully stressed at 4.1GHz / 1.337V.

    Because of that I would personally advice against overclocking these CPUs and exploring the possibilities XFR 2 has made available instead. Some ASUS motherboards will also feature additional (and exclusive) XFR 2 related tweaks, which essentially allow you to maintain 4.1GHz+ on all cores and 4.3GHz+ on two cores without entering into the actual overclocking mode (OC-Mode).

    The loss in all core performance will usually be smaller than the increase in single threaded performance is, as most of the CPUs won't be reaching much over 4.1GHz anyway. Personally, I expect 4.1 - 4.15GHz to be the new average maximum frequency for 8-core SKUs (compared to the average OC of 3.85GHz on Summit Ridge), given that high-end cooling and a higher-end motherboard are used.

    Due the 2700X being the current flagship SKU it wouldn’t surprise me one bit if the little brother R7 2700 SKU turned out to be more power efficient and cooler running part, when both of them are overclocked to same frequency. Even at stock, the 2700X practically operates at the very limit of what is technically possible to achieve on the 12nm LP node-let.

    Because of that, the 2700X SKUs most likely uses silicon which features higher SIDD (static leakage) than the average silicon used in other lower clocked SKUs. Silicon which features higher SIDD will most of the time require less voltage to reach certain frequency, compared to silicon with lower leakage characteristics. However, despite the lower voltage on the higher SIDD silicon, the power consumption is usually slightly higher due to the higher current draw and temperatures (and therefore lower overall efficiency). Using higher SIDD silicon is particularly useful when operating in a region, where the voltage cannot be raised any further e.g. due to a design limit (or dependencies).

    Similar binning practices for the flagship SKUs have been exercised with the previous Ryzen “X” series SKUs, as well as on the previous CPU line-ups (FX-9000 series). Unfortunately, I didn’t have the chance to verify the theory in practice due the lack of a R7 2700 SKU, however I’m quite certain that it is the case with the 2700X as well.
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