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Old 11-05-2007, 08:52   #1 (permalink)
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De remarcat,de-altfel e usor de vazut,ca MSI P35 Platinum de pe XS este o varianta hibrid,are 6 dimm-uri 2 DDR3 si 4 DDR2...dar nu merg decat sau DDR2 sau DDR3,nu toate odata...
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Era sa pic de pe scaun...
...pey linkul pus de mine il puteti gasi pe toate site-urile frantuzesti de profil,deci nu are ce cont sa-ti ceara,nu este deloc ceva cu acces restrictionat...chiar nu inteleg ce ai vrut sa spui si in ce situatie te-ai gasit sa-ti ceara autorizatie...
zici k am dat link de la NASA...
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Old 11-05-2007, 23:59   #5 (permalink)
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Old 15-05-2007, 00:52   #6 (permalink)
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Teste de anduranta termica(la 2 Bearlake) facute de chinezi...
Atentie k sunt facute fara air flow!...
Gigabyte P35-DS3R Rev 1.01 (Ultradurable 2) vs ASUS P5K
S-a folosit urmatorul "test equipment":
CPU:Intel Smithfield840-XE FSB:800MHz 3.2GHz
DDR2:Kingmax DDR2 800MHz 4*512MB
Display card:GV-NX73G128D-RH
ASUS P5K dupa cum se observa atinge si 166 grade Celsius...
Gigibyte?…maxim 129….deci ar fi o diferenta fata de ASUS…
...iar la noi,unii se agita pt temperaturi de 40-50 de grade la proc/mobo...un fleac...
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AnandTech a facut aici niste teste DDR3 vs DDR2 cu 3 mobo:
-1)ASUS P5K3 Deluxe/Bearlake P35,cu suport DDR3 pana la 1333MHz
-2)ASUS P5K Deluxe/Bearlake P35,hibrid,cu suport DDR2 si DDR3
-3) ASUS P5B Deluxe/P965,cu suport DDR2.
Concluziile,foarte interesante,au fost in mare :
P35 aduce un plus de performanta de 2 pana la 5% in jocuri si alte aplicatii,exclusiv datorita controllerului de memorie mai bun,semnificativ imbunatatit fata de P965;
DDR3 este promitator/cu potential mai bun de performanta,de vreme ce vine fata de DDR2 cu viteze mai mari si timing-uri care cu timpul vor deveni mai stranse (acum 1333 MHz/9-9-9-25);cei mai optimisti vanzatori de memorie chestionati de AnandTech cred ca se va ajunge la sfarsitul lui 2007 la o apropiere de pret/price parity intre DDR3 si DDR2.
P35 este un castig,chiar si pe partea de overclock,datorita bus-ului de 1333 MHz.
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Old 16-05-2007, 04:24   #9 (permalink)
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P5K Deluxe nu e hibrid,e P35 cu DDR2
hibrizi am vazut la MSI(ai zis tu in primul post) si Gigabyte

ASUS P5K3 Deluxe DDR3 (Intel P35) mainboard review - Introduction (@OCWorkbench)
Gigabyte P35-DQ6 (Intel P35) mainboard review - Introduction (@OCWorkbench)
MSI P35 Neo Combo benchmarked (@fudzilla)
MSI P35 Platinum Motherboard (@ TweakTown )
Gigabyte P35-DS4 (@ Legion Hardware )
Gigabyte P35-DS3R Intel Bearlake Review (@ VR-Zone )
ASUS P5K Deluxe (@ Legion Hardware )
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Old 16-05-2007, 21:42   #10 (permalink)
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P5K Deluxe nu e hibrid,e P35 cu DDR2
hibrizi am vazut la MSI(ai zis tu in primul post) si Gigabyte
Merci,mascotzel,intr-adevar nu e hibrid...
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Gigabyte P35C-DS3R DDR2/DDR3 (Intel P35) mainboard review(@OCWorkBench)

DDR3 at 1540(10-10-10-28) achieved on Gigabyte P35 board P35C-DS3R(@OCWorkBench)

ATI HD 2900XT CrossFire: Intel 975X versus Intel P35(@AnandTech)
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P35 aduce un plus de performanta de 2 pana la 5% in jocuri si alte aplicatii,exclusiv datorita controllerului de memorie mai bun,semnificativ imbunatatit fata de P965
Not true! Idiotul ala de "redactor" de la Anandtech a testat cu procesoare diferite:
P35 cu E6420 @2.66GHz (333x8)
P965 cu E6700 2.66GHz (266x10)

Diferenta aia de 2-5% vine de la FSB-ul mai mare, nu de la controlerul de memorie. In realitate din testele facute de unii posesori rezulta ca P35 este putin mai lent clock-for clock decat P965 cu procesoare dual-core, dar cu quad-core s-ar putea sa fie putin mai rapid.
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Not true! Idiotul ala de "redactor" de la Anandtech a testat cu procesoare diferite:
P35 cu E6420 @2.66GHz (333x8)
P965 cu E6700 2.66GHz (266x10)

Diferenta aia de 2-5% vine de la FSB-ul mai mare, nu de la controlerul de memorie. In realitate din testele facute de unii posesori rezulta ca P35 este putin mai lent clock-for clock decat P965 cu procesoare dual-core, dar cu quad-core s-ar putea sa fie putin mai rapid.
Corecta in principiu observatia ta,felicitari,ai fost atent la detalii...
Dar se pare totusi ca nu e deloc "idiot" cel de care vorbesti,Wesley Fink,vezi aici link AnandTech...unde tot el semneaza...pur si simplu a fost limitat de chipseturi (P965 nu accepta ratio de 333x8,P35 nu accepta DDR3 1333 cu ratio de 10x266)...problema e mai complicata decat credem noi...numai teste suplimentare vor clarifica cert rolul controllerului de memorie in plusul de performanta oferit de P35...
Cert este ca chipsetul P35 marcheaza un progres fata de P965,ceea ce e si normal...
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Daca pe 9 Mai au expirat NDA-urile,pe 21 Mai Intel lanseaza oficial chipsetul P35,membru al familiei Bearlake.
Cel putin asa sustin cei de la HotHardware,aici.
Baietii HH fac si ceva teste,aici,Asus&Corsair,dupa care ajung tot la concluzia unui controller de memorie mai rapid la P35 fata de P965.
Cu Corsair XMS3 (adik DDR3) s-a reusit sa se atinga 1732 MHz! latente 10-8-8-16.
Alte plusuri P35 vs P965 pe langa MHC/controller memo mai rapid sunt DDR3,FSB de 1333 MHz,ICH9R Southbridge mai rapid si atentie! "low power"/adik niveluri de consum electric mai scazute.
Din pacate,ABIT are ceva probleme/directorul lor de marketing a plecat,o posibila explicatie la faptul ca ABIT se afla inca in faza de preorder cu cele 2 modele P35 ale lor, Abit IP35 PRO si Abit IP35 care n-au patruns pe alte piete decat cele chinezesti...nici macar un review cu teste n-am putut gasi...
PS Corsair 2GB DDR3 XMS3-1066C7 TwinX (2x1GB) se gaseste deja in UK la pret de 250 Lire...
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lucky_may_be, eu tot nu prea am incredere in Wesley Fink asta. Acel articol suplimentar l-a facut doar pentru ca i-a sarit lumea in cap pe toate forumurile externe, dar nici acum nu a clarificat problema. Din relatarile posesorilor de P5K Deluxe reiese ca placa vine din fabrica cu latente secundare setate foarte strans si aproape ca nu se mai poate stoarce nici un strop de performanta din ea prin tweaking, in timp ce P5B Dlx este chiar invers. In al doilea rand pe nimeni nu prea intereseaza cum se comporta la FSB default si doar cu memoriile "umflate" la 800/1066/1333 pentru ca overclockerii o vor tine in general la FSB 400-500 sau chiar mai mult, iar neoverclockerii oricum nu sunt interesati de 1-2% ca daca ar fi interesati s-ar apuca de OC.

Repet, din rezultatele pe care le-am vazut pana acum, la FSB >400MHz, cu memoria 1:1 sau 4:5 si latente (inclusiv secundare) identice, P35 este mai lent clock-for-clock decat P965 in strap 1066. Ramane de vazut cum sta treaba cu strapul. Pana acum s-a relatat doar ca Asus P5K "vanilla" sare in strap la 295MHz, iar Gigi DS3R la 415MHz.
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Intel Chipset Refresh: P35 and G33 Now, X38 and G35 Later(@PC Perspective)
7 nouveaux chipsets Intel(@Matbe.com)
Intel P35 Motherboards - Asus and Gigabyte(@PC Perspective)
Din ce am citit pe alte forumuri,de astazi vor curge review-urile Bearlake,dar preturile sincer mi se par mari,mai ales la noi...de asta sper sa vina repejor ABIT cu modelele sale,caci se pare ca vor fi mai ieftine decat concurenta de la Gigibyte si ASUS.

Neon Biker,ce mi se pare mie e ca la strap 1066 e pe undeva normal k P35 sa fie mai slab ca P965,targetul lor e diferit,P35 e 100% Bearlake,deci 1333 MHz.
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Gigabyte la noi e aproape de modelel cu P965
ASUS sunt scumpe
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Gigabyte la noi e aproape de modelel cu P965
ASUS sunt scumpe
Corect...500 RON e ok pt un P35,ma refer la GIGABYTE P35-DS4.
Dar daca se uneau astia 2,nu mai aveam scumpetea asta... dar asa a ramas ASUS sa sparga plafonul la preturi...
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Gigabyte-urile se descurca bine si au pret bun...deocamdata e doar inceputul,mai e timp de opinii pana apar si proacele de 1333
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