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Old 05-10-2007, 09:33   #181 (permalink)
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SickUser,as zice ca acel consum (mai mare) se reflecta in temperaturi mai ridicate(in ce altceva sa se reflecte?!) si posibil un condensator (solid!) care se dezintegreaza,in caz de OC extrem.
Dealtfel se vede si in testele olandezilor,ca desi Asus P5K Deluxe are rezultate f.bune,la final nu se regaseste pe podium,oare nu din cauza consumului aberant ?
Nu stiu cat e diferenta,nu am avut si Asus,sa fac o comparatie directa (si fiecare placa are racirea ei).
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Old 05-10-2007, 10:47   #182 (permalink)
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din cate vad eu, singurul scop al lui X38 e sa ii ia fata lui 680i pe 2xvideo
poate o sa merite cand se vor ieftini ddr3-urile
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Old 05-10-2007, 11:13   #183 (permalink)
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din cate vad eu, singurul scop al lui X38 e sa ii ia fata lui 680i pe 2xvideo
poate o sa merite cand se vor ieftini ddr3-urile
X38 sunt si cu DDR2,nu s-ar risca nici un producator sa iasa doar cu X38-uri exclusiv cu DDR3,iar unele X38 au chiar 4xVGA (MSI X38 Diamond,#161)
Deja Nvidia pregatesc si ei alt chipset,tri-SLI,sa concureze cu X38/X48,680i e deja uzat moral.
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Old 06-10-2007, 00:06   #184 (permalink)
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Auzi da' pana la urma de ce consuma asa mult p5k-ul ? Are ceva in plus fata de celelalte placi cu chipset p35 ? Cat despre condensatorul care explodeaza in caz de OC extrem, well, ce inseamna OC extrem pentru tine ?? 4 ghz de exemplu e OC extrem sau e OC moderat ?
 
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Old 06-10-2007, 00:15   #185 (permalink)
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are careva http://emag.ro/placi_baza/placa-de-b...5--pP35NEO2-FR

pt as vrea sa o pun intr-un sistem,si din ce am citit pe newegg sunt cam nedumerit.
 
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Old 06-10-2007, 02:03   #186 (permalink)
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Da, este cam interesanta placa asta !
Nu sunt review-uri de loc pe net despre placa asta !
 
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Old 06-10-2007, 02:44   #187 (permalink)
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Unii zic ca e buna,altii zic ca s-a prajit rpd,altii zic de faza cu update-ul de bios...n-am gasit nici de-al naiba un review de la A la Z...Cred ca ma orientez spre altceva,decat sa risc.
 
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Old 06-10-2007, 09:29   #188 (permalink)
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Croocodillul,are dotari f. interesante MSI-ul ala (Crossfire,LED-uri,RAID,racire mai sofisticata) si raport pret/performanta exceptional,insa e cam freaky cu alimentarea,cica ar merge doar pe 20 pin,iar la proc 8 pin,nu 4 (ai citit si tu pe newegg),ceea ce inseamna ca iti trebuie o sursa solida gen VX450W.
Riscul e f.mic sa-ti porneasca cu fum...iar live update e un risc major la orice placa,nu doar MSI.Eu zic ca merita incercata cu putin curaj,are garantie 3 ani...totusi e cam suspect de ieftina fata de varianta P35 Neo-F(daca pretentiile de OC sunt medii,o poti incerca p-asta,o gasesti si pe thread,#179),are alimentarea CPU doar pe 4 pin (deci no problem,no smoke ).
Daca nu,mergi pe Gigabyte(P35-DS3R) si cu asta basta!
SickUser,te-ai blocat pe Asus?!...sunt placi f. bune,dar tre' sa ai noroc.
Fara noroc,parerea mea ca merge doar P5K-E,iar consumul ia-l ca pe un pret al performantei si al afinitatii fata de brand...nu dau definitii la OC extrem,fiecare decide pt ce a renuntat la coolerul stock.
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Hmmm...si ce misto arata ...nu vreau sa risc pe pielea omului...iau altceva,tocmai din cauza ca e suspect de ieftina.La asta ma uitam cand am schimbat placa de baza,dar am decis sa merg tot pe abit
 
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Old 06-10-2007, 13:07   #190 (permalink)
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680i e deja uzat moral.
Dupa vreo 2 luni va apare 790SLI , apoi 810 , iar si iar . Tot ce se lanseaza va fi fancy o luna sau doua apoi va fi uzat .
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SickUser,te-ai blocat pe Asus?!...sunt placi f. bune,dar tre' sa ai noroc.
Fara noroc,parerea mea ca merge doar P5K-E
Adica am sanse mai mari obtin un OC "extrem" (aka 4 ghz @core 2 quad) pe un P5K-E decat pe un P5K-Deluxe asta vrei sa spui ? Pai nu ziceai tu pe un alt thread ca sunt identice placile, doar ca deluxe are radiatoarele alea "smechere" pe mosfeti...?

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,iar consumul ia-l ca pe un pret al performantei si al afinitatii fata de brand...nu dau definitii la OC extrem,fiecare decide pt ce a renuntat la coolerul stock.
Nu te supara dar observ ca iti place sa induci lumea in eroare: daca tot spui ca e posibil ca placa sa faca bum in caz de OC extrem atunci fa bine si spune si ce intelegi tu prin "OC extrem". Pentru ca OC-ul extrem poa' sa fie si el de mai multe feluri: OC extrem cu racire pe aer, OC extrem cu racire pe apa, OC extrem cu racire pe azot lichid etc. Pana una-alta am dat un search pe google la p5k exploded capacitor si asta e tot ce-am gasit:
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The capacitor of my P5K-E exploded suddenly. http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...es/shocked.gif
A big load never hung.
The loud sound and the smoke and the smell......

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PSU : OCZ PowerStream 520W
Vcore : 1.65V
Clock : 4.5GHz
CPU Temp : -70C
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=151968

Avand in vedere faptul ca 99.99 % din cei care isi cumpara aceasta placa nu vor folosi in vecii vecilor astfel de sisteme de racire "exotice" (azot lichid/LN2), si faptul ca pe desupra acesta este un caz izolat (din cate observ) chiar si printre cei care folosesc astfel de sisteme, nu vad de ce ai considerat tu necesar sa aduci in discutie acest aspect...putea la fel de bine sa fie o placa de baza cu probleme, asta nu inseamna ca toate au aceeasi problema

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Old 07-10-2007, 22:19   #192 (permalink)
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SickUser,cand zic noroc cu P5K-E zic fiabilitate,adica nu ai probleme cu ea,macar default (la Asus P5K Premium nu e cazul,dau un exemplu,unde-s probleme cu carul ).
Eu am dat link cu cineva care avea racire pe aer,#175, (racirile astea nu sunt asa izolate,cred) si procul la 3.6 GHz,deci adunand 1+1=2 placi Asus care fac fum si poc.Evident,cazuri izolate...dar acest lucru merita remarcat...si threadul de pe XS e in acelasi sens "Please note the capacitor's explosion..."(el de ce a considerat necesar sa aduca explozia in discutie,doar e fan Asus? )
De ce la alte Bearlakuri (MSI,Abit,DFI) zona PWM e mai sigura si nu se aud explozii?!(intreb retoric)
Daca gasesti tu linkuri si cu alte P35,vom fi cu totii avertizati,nu indusi in eroare.
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Old 07-10-2007, 23:38   #193 (permalink)
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Heh, cine stie cat a fortat ala placa inainte...probabil ca a incercat si el un mic OC de vreo 4.5 Ghz pe azot lichid "ca baietii" si dupa aia a vrut sa vada cat duce pe aer- si surpriza -un condensator a facut bum ! Culmea e ca numai la astia de pe XtremeSystemsForum se intampla astfel de chestii...de ce oare ?

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SickUser,cand zic noroc cu P5K-E zic fiabilitate,adica nu ai probleme cu ea,macar default (la Asus P5K Premium nu e cazul,dau un exemplu,unde-s probleme cu carul http://forum.computergames.ro/../../...lies/frown.gif).
De Premium am auzit si eu ca are probleme, cu hardurile mai ales. Oricum daca imi iau Asus atunci mai mult ca sigur imi iau Deluxe nu Premium. Iar intre Deluxe si P5K-E n-ar trebui sa fie vreo diferenta in ceea ce priveste fiabilitatea nu ? De fapt deluxe ar trebui sa fie ceva mai fiabila si mai stabila in caz de OC si asta datorita sistemului de racire superior.
 
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Old 08-10-2007, 00:27   #194 (permalink)
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SickUser,parca inclinai spre Abit Snake...in threadul respectiv,#67,am spus ca experimentatul Kunaak s-a "fript" cu 2x P5K Deluxe,si tot pe XS,mai nou,vad altii care au alte belele,si-au ars RAM-ul (parfum de RAM,G.Skill,Crucial Ballistix) sau boxele(Z5500) tot cu (2x) P5K Deluxe...
sa zicem ca e prost gramada tipu',dar cu "killed my ram" il confirma si altul care n-are 3 posturi pe XS...
totusi sa fie doar o coincidenta ca e un Deluxe pe la mijloc?...
Deci dupa ce voiai Abit,acum vrei P5K Deluxe ...sper sincer sa nu ai motive sa te plangi de alegerea facuta...
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Old 08-10-2007, 17:44   #195 (permalink)
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Mai nu stiu ce sa zic, la noi cred ca s-au vandut o multime de p5k-uri pana acum si nu am vazut sa se planga cineva de ele...si avem si noi overclokeri inraiti asta-i clar, cred ca majoritatea celor care si-au cumparat aceasta placa au luat-o special pentru OC.

And believe it or not, inca mai inclin spre Abit Snake, faza e ca asus are wireless lan pe cand abit-ul n-are si ma gandeam ca virgula chestia asta imi va fi de folos in caz ca voi vrea sa imi conectez viitoarea consola (xbox360) la internet. Eu nu prea ma pricep la retelistica asa ca e posibil sa aberez pe-aici, daca tu te pricepi mai bine te rog sa ma corectezi
 
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Old 08-10-2007, 23:51   #196 (permalink)
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And believe it or not, inca mai inclin spre Abit Snake, faza e ca asus are wireless lan pe cand abit-ul n-are
Poti lua separat un LAN WiFI sau un P5K-E WiFi,care in OC e f.aproape de Spritz Formula.


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In CrossFire mode, the difference is more apparent with the ASUS P5E3 Deluxe and GA-X38-DQ6 leading by around 10 fps at 116.5fps. The P35T-DQ6 scored 105.4 fps while the Jetway I35P-SG scored 105.2fps.
That is a 10.5% difference between the X38 and P35 boards.
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Asadar,Abit Snake e placa P35 de referinta pt performanta si compatibilitate,in opinia AT.
PS In teste e inclusa si DFI Infinity P965.
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The Asus P5E3 Deluxe is an excellent motherboard all round ... with great features, good performance and superb overclocking ability. It really sets the standard for all Intel X38 based motherboards. Well done Asus.
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Again, although Intel did claim that the X38 was a much better overclocker, we failed to prove this when testing with the new ASUS P5E3 Deluxe
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...we do find it very easy to get excited about features such as Express Gate, BlackHawk audio and Wireless 802.11n support.
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The P5E3 Deluxe (WiFi-AP @n) is an exceptional product from ASUS and dare I say it once again, this is probably the best motherboard we have ever tested.
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The uniquely abit engineered electrical design including next generation digital PWMs and 100% solid state capacitors warrant best power characteristics resulting in lower consumption, higher efficiency and extreme stability.
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The copper based dual-heatpipe heat sink with extra slim fins and an additional cooling Extendor maximizes heat dissipation by linking the NorthBridge high-fin heat-sink via a heatpipe to on extra high-fin heat-sink.
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Abit puts you into the driver’s seat...for speeds well beyond 1600 MHz FSB.
Specificatii Speedster si aici.
Pentru ca o sa intrebati de pret,250 $ e un pret foarte bun avand in vedere concurenta,Asus P5E3 Deluxe costa 400-450$(Asus e DDR3 ,dar oricum...)
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@lucky_may_be...acest thread se reduce la pro Abit si contra Asus...ce comparatie faci intre placi de baza cu DDR2 vs. DDR3 ?
corect era o comparatie cu placi de baza care au aceleasi specificatii si functioneaza cu DDR2 ambele,
daca tu spui ca afara sunt 250$ la noi cu siguranta or sa fie peste 330$...uite aici o placa de baza cu chipset intel X38 de la Asus(varf de gama cu DDR2 si chipset X38)

in scurt timp apar si cele din clasa de mijloc,sensibil mai ieftine
 
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eu nu vad niciun contra ASUS. cu 3 posturi mai sus vad o groaza de review-uri bune la x38-urile de la ASUS. tu nu le vezi?
 
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