Bearlake in teste

[lucky_may_be]

Teste Computex

ABIT IP35 Pro,4.55 GHz QX6700(@hexus)

Quad-PEG boards, 4.2GHz QX6850 and much more at MSI(@hexus)

Interviu Computex

Intel discusses Bearlake(@digitimes)

...In fact, P35 and G33 chipsets were shipped to channels worldwide two months before Computex. This let consumers experience the new products ahead of launch to help boost awareness. Before the launch in June a few days ago, over one million 3 series chipsets had already been shipped out.

Q: Does Intel have plans to integrate northbridge and southbridge chips?

A: Currently, Intel's chipset research team doesn't have plans to integrate the two chips into one. This is due to the fact that the southbridge is still consider an important differentiator in the PC market. Although the market already has chipsets that integrated both a north and southbridge, these chipsets are mostly adopted in entry-level products.

[darkzone]

Originally Posted by digitimes

Although the market already has chipsets that integrated both a north and southbridge, these chipsets are mostly adopted in entry-level products.

Ce penal ...
Deci, după mintea creaţă a lu' Malinowski ăla, dacă ai un singur chip care înglobează funcţiile NB şi SB, înseamnă că e entry-level
Penibil, mai ales din partea unui oficial Intel. Asta e tot ce pot să spună ... jenant ...

[lucky_may_be]

Acest new-entry Celly 420 te lasa masca,asa procesor mai rar...
Ce ispravi credeti ca a facut,asa,mai recent?...
...pe un MSI P35 sta in OC la 2,67 GHz (de la 1,6 GHz default) si asa de lejer se simte incat nu are nevoie de cooler!...iar temperatura nu trece de 70 de grade!...
Link,forum maximopc.

[zeegermans]

Originally Posted by darkzone

Ce penal ...
Deci, după mintea creaţă a lu' Malinowski ăla, dacă ai un singur chip care înglobează funcţiile NB şi SB, înseamnă că e entry-level
Penibil, mai ales din partea unui oficial Intel. Asta e tot ce pot să spună ... jenant ...

ce preferi? o combina audio care sa integreze difuzoare, cd player, radio, amplificator, preamp sau fiecare in parte?
un telefon care sa aiba mp3 player, camera foto, video, tv (prin 3g) inglobate sau fiecare separat?
cam acelasi lucru e si cu chipseturile... sau nu?
omul a spus ca acele solutii sunt adoptate in produsele entry level de cele mai multe ori. si asa si este. nu neaparat ca toate chipurile care au functii de nb si sb sunt low end.

[mascotzel]

explicatia data de ei tot de kko e...
randurile pe care le-ai insirat,zeegermans,n-au legatura

[lucky_may_be]

Probabil Malinowski s-a referit la situatia actuala,pentru ca la Nehalem (procesoarele dupa Penryn) sunt schimbari mari de arhitectura,se incearca chiar integrarea unui core "grafic" si a altor elemente revolutionare (cum ar fi triple channel ),deci nu e exlusa nici punerea "impreuna" a NB cu SB...mie oricum mi se pare un + sa integreze NB cu SB pentru platformele after Penryn.


Intel Readies New Triple Channel Memory Controller for Nehalem Chips(@xbitlabs)

It is known that Nehalem as well as Westmere central processing units (CPUs) will use a new platform architecture and while the company does not directly state it, the new platform will hardly use processor system busses, but rather will feature point-to-point serial bus (which is currently referred to as Common Serial Bus or CSI) similar to Hyper-Transport or PCI Express. The new CPUs due in late 2008 will feature so-called dynamically scalable architecture

According to PC Watch web-site, the top Nehalem processor code-named Bloomfield with four cores will have triple-channel DDR3 memory controller, whereas slightly less advanced may have less channels.

Three memory channels supporting PC3-12800 (DDR3 1600MHz) memory would provide approximately 38.4GB/s memory bandwidth, up significantly from about 21.3GB/s memory bandwidth available today. Given that in 2009 Intel plans to release Nehalem processor with built-in graphics core, triple-channel memory controller may help to keep performance in 3D games on relatively high level.

[darkzone]

Am citit articolul ăla chiar în ziua în care a fost postat (m-am nimerit pe-acolo în momentul ăla, nu de alta ) şi pare interesant. Acu' ce-o însemna la ei triple channel ăla şi cum va fi implementat ... mai vedem. Pe hârtie arată bine, ce să zic, la execuţie sunt curios cum va arăta

[bonzo_catalin]

Alta gaselnita de marketing sa faca brain-wash printre utilizatori .

[lucky_may_be]

New-entry in teste...

MSI P35 Neo Combo Motherboard(@cpu3d.com)

The MSI P35 Neo Combo motherboard gave us quite a surprise in terms of performance. In our our benchmarks it performed very well against some of the high-end motherboards on list. It wasn't far off from the Asus P5K Deluxe. One main advantage of this motherboard is the support of DDR2 and DDR3 ram. In our tests, we used DDR2 PC2-8500 ram from OCZ ... imagine what we could archieve if we used DDR3 ram.

For overclocking, the P35 Neo Combo produced some good results. I was able to overclock our Core 2 Quad Q6600 processor from 2.4GHz to an impressive 3.2GHz (9x355) all on standard air cooling. However, I wasn't able to push it to 400Mhz on the FSB, but still it's a very good overclock. I think with better cooling and more voltage tweaks ... 3.4Ghz or 3.6Ghz is achieveable.

Final words.The MSI P35 Neo Combo motherboard is good all-rounder, which offers very good performance at a great price. It's aimed at the manstream market, but it can perform like an enthusiast board. If you want an affordable new motherboard based on Intel's P35 chipset ... then take a look at this one.

...si o stire despre viitoarea expansiune Bearlake...
Intel to adjust proportions of 3 series and entry-level chipsets(@digitimes)

Two of Intel's 3 series chipsets, P35 and G33, will account for around 15% of total shipments by the end of the second quarter, while the proportion of the whole 3 series will increase to 38% after the launch of the currently unreleased X38, G35 and G31 in the third quarter. 965 chipset proportions will drop to 10% in the third quarter, noted the sources

[lucky_may_be]

MSI P35 Neo Combo(@hardwaresecrets.com)...once again...

We don’t think DDR3 will bring a higher performance gain over DDR2 and also P35 unofficially supports DDR2-1066, so if you are thinking of buying this motherboard to have DDR3-1066 you can buy any DDR2-based P35 motherboard and install DDR2-1066 modules, which are cheaper than DDR3-1066 one...
DDR3 will probably make more sense with the next Intel chipset, X38, which will support DDR3 up to 1,333 MHz.

Given these facts if you are interested on the new Intel P35 chipset we recommend you to buy a motherboard solely based on DDR2 memories, as they provide a more flexible memory upgrade capability...
MSI P35 Neo Combo is a good motherboard, don’t get us wrong. But we think that for the market it is targeted – average users – P35 motherboards using only DDR2 memories make much more sense.

MSI P35 Platinum(@bit-tech.net)

The feature set is solid, it looks great and offers enough to keep the majority of people interested. The box could offer a few more extras like additional USB ports and the board's eSATA solution is inferior to Gigabyte's optional bracket. However, if you're a fan of quiet computing and want something rock solid stable with an enthusiast friendly BIOS, superb overclocking and a not too stressing price, then the MSI P35 Platinum should definitely be one to consider.

Puteti vizita mai pe indelete si o fabrica de mobo-uri, ECS's China(@hardwarelogic.com)...

...de remarcat ca au aparut de putin timp Bearlake-urile ABIT in magazinele din US si UK...o impresie f buna a facut intr-un termen f scurt ABIT IP35 PRO,pe site-ul newegg...

Originally Posted by a newegg's client

..I'm still in awe. This has got to be the best board since the AW9D. I'm already self-assured. Perfect on shipped BIOS. Extremely fast. Everything loaded in so fast, my head was spinning. Extremely stable. I can't believe that this has really happened.

[lucky_may_be]

ASUS P5K Deluxe WiFi-AP(@techgage)

Compared to the P5K3, the P5K retails for around $30 - $40 less, but essentially offers the exact same performance. The P5K3 only has an obvious advantage because the stock memory was running at a higher frequency. That said, $225 is well worth the cost of this board if you are looking for one that's feature-rich. There is a non-deluxe version of the board available for $150 on average, but it lacks WiFi, a PCI-E 1x slot, two S-ATA ports among other things.

Asus P5K Deluxe WiFi (@neoseeker)

While the results at 485x7 were very good, I wanted to see if I could do better; and I was able to get the system almost 100% stable at 450x8 1080-4-4-4-12. But alas I had a crash in the Business Winstone Content Creation benchmark during one of the runs, so I cannot in good conscience call it 100% stable...
It would not surprise me at all if a bit more cooling was able to get (E6400) 3.6GHz stable.

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ASUS P5K3 Deluxe (@[H]Enthusiast)

The ASUS P5K3 proves to be another motherboard founded on stellar engineering culminating in great stability, excellent performance, and solid overclocking prowess. This is an expensive motherboard however and once you factor in the cost of DDR3 modules you are going to find yourself easily above a $600 upgrade investment

ABIT IP35 PRO "Snake" Performance Review(@Hicookie,ocxtreme.org)

CPU:E6850&X6800
abit IP35 Pro BIOS:0606
Kingston HyperX 1066 512MB*4
First run. 9x400 DDR2-1000 4.4.3.9...
second run. 8x450 DDR2-1122 4.4.4.9

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MSI P35 Platinum (@digital-daily)

We also note the very good overclocking capability of both the motherboard and the chipset. Although the FSB = 480 MHz is lower than the records set at our test lab (520 MHz), this value is much higher than those for MSI motherboards based on P965 (< 400 MHz).

Foxconn P35A (Intel P35 + ICH9)(@hardwarezone)

Now, the board's features and performance pretty much speak for themselves, but we'd like to comment a little more on the aspect of functionality and user experience. In the overclocking section of this review, we mentioned that the P35A isn't for the uninitiated and the board can really be a handful. For the casual user, setting up is not really a problem - if you're leaving everything on default. We did not encounter problems with hardware detection, compatibility or stability during installation and testing, which speaks well for the P35A

Gigabyte GA-P35-QD6(@bootdaily)

Gigabyte has made a very formidable solution that offers cutting-edge features, excellent performance and has only three caveats we can find – the lack of RAM timing adjustment support in the BIOS, the integrated audio’s meager sound quality and the massive cooling assembly around the CPU socket is a bit over-crowded.

[lucky_may_be]

632 FSB done on DFI P35-T2R(@XS Forums)

Intel DG33BU - mATX For Your PC(@BCCHardware)

Asus P5K Mainboard: Youngest Member of Asus Family on Intel P35 Express Chipset(@xbitlabs)

Asus P5K3 Deluxe(@cpu3d)

The Asus P5K3 Deluxe is an great motherboard that offer excellent performance at 1333FSB using DDR3-1333 ram. I highly recommend this motherboard to any hardcore performance user or enthusiast with money to spend.

Got to 4 G! abit IP35 Pro overclock test revealed! (@hardspell)

Test platform:
CPU: Intel C2D E6850 G0 @ 4GHz
Cooler: Noctua NH-U12
Ram: Team DDR2-1000 5-5-5-15 512M*2
VGA: NV 8800GTX
HDD: RaptorX 150G
Power: Seasonic S12 600W

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ASUS P5K3-Deluxe: Beta BIOS Update(@anandtech)

...we are hesitant at this time to provide full application results with this beta BIOS. Since this is a beta BIOS we found a few quirks during testing such as the BIOS setting the PCIe link speed to x2 or x4 speeds at certain FSB and memory strap settings.

The most impressive aspect we have noticed is the ability to run 1T timings up to DDR3-1860 in dual channel mode with the Micron IC based modules.

Eight P35-DDR2 Motherboards Compared(@tomshardware)
Asus P5K Deluxe WiFi-AP
Abit IP35 Pro
Foxconn P35A
Gigabyte GA-P35-DQ6
MSI P35 Neo
MSI P35 Platinum
MSI P35 Neo Combo
Gigabyte GA-P35C-DS3R

The Gigabyte GA-P35-DQ6 takes the overclocking crown by the smallest margin, and the same company's GA-P35C-DS3R comes in second place. Abit also made a good showing, as did Asus' old P965 Express based P5B Deluxe WiFi-AP Edition motherboard.

[mascotzel]

bine ca au inceput sa apara si rezultate ABIT si DFI

[Neon Biker]

Din pacate sunt cam inutile review-urile astea. Pe cine dracu intereseaza daca o placa este mai rapida pe default cu 0.1% si se OC cu 3MHz mai mult cu un procesor cu FSB wall la 450-460MHz?

[lucky_may_be]

Originally Posted by Neon Biker

Din pacate sunt cam inutile review-urile astea. Pe cine dracu intereseaza daca o placa este mai rapida pe default cu 0.1% si se OC cu 3MHz mai mult cu un procesor cu FSB wall la 450-460MHz?

Probabil te referi la ultimul review si la altele de acest gen,unde nshpe placi sunt despartite de 0,1-1% ,dar chestia asta tot din review-ul "inutil" o afli,ca dinainte nu poti spune k sunt toate la fel...pe de alta parte,daca te intereseaza o anumita placa o poti urmari se vezi ce bundle sau layout are,cum sta cu optiunile din BIOS,daca memoriile merg 1T,ce performanta a stors fiecare din ea,etc.
Plus ca sunt interesante anumite opinii din review-uri,unii zic ca placile combo sunt de preferat,altii din contra spun ca placile cu DDR2,datorita upgrade-ului mai ieftin si deci mai facil,sunt o optiune mai buna.

[Neon Biker]

Stiu, stiu, sunt bune si astea la ceva... probabil pentru noobi, nu stiu exact. Eu eram nervos ca am pierdut 15 minute rasfoind inca un review din care n-am aflat nimic. De ce nu poate nimeni sa cerceteze punctele unde se sare in strap, sa testeze performanta la FSB-uri inalte, cu diferite setari de memorie sau mai nou acel "performance level" descoperit de autorii lui MemSet? Is that so much to ask?

[lucky_may_be]

Asus P5K DLX versus P5K3 DLX: DDR2 versus DDR3(@Madboxpc)

MSI P35 Platinum(@HardwareSecrets)

GIGABYTE P35T-DQ6(@[H[Enthusiast)

ECS P35T-A(@LegionHardware)

In the past we have found the Intel P35 chipset to be an exceptional overclocker, as the ASUS P5K Deluxe pushed our Core 2 Duo E6700 processor to 3.90GHz, while the Gigabyte P35-DS4 managed 3.66GHz. The ECS P35T-A on the other hand had all the required tweakable settings available in the BIOS to achieve a decent overclock, but unfortunately this was not to be. Amazingly the P35T-A was unable to push our E6700 processor past 3.2GHz without compromising stability, which is very disappointing. Of course for those not interested in overclocking this is not an issue, though prior to this our worst E6700 overclock was 3.4GHz.

[lucky_may_be]

MSI P35 Platinum(@neoseeker)

Asus P5K Deluxe Mainboard: Second Encounter(@xbitlabs)

...we are going to unveil the mysteries of memory subsystem fine tuning and reveal some overclocking tricks...

The results of our second test session proved once again that Asus P5K Deluxe boasts excellent performance and rich set of features that is why we award it with our Editor’s Choice as the today’s best mainboard for Core 2 processors.

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Primul review complet ABIT... pe care-l asteptam de ceva timp...
Abit IP35 Pro appeals to users still using DDR2 ram(@cpu3d)

When it comes to overclocking, I thought the IP35 Pro could have done a little bit better. The uGuru overclocking feature in the BIOS was great to use, but it did not give me the higher FSB I was expecting of 400Mhz. I even tried increasing the voltages for CPU, DRAM and chipset to quite high levels, with no avail.

After some playing around with the BIOS, I was able to overclock our Core 2 Quad Q6600 to 3.375Ghz (9x375) which is still very good. However our memory was only running at a ratio of 1:2, that's DDR2-1125 (563Mhz) ...

All is not lost though, the Abit IP35 Pro as a mainstream board is a very good performer, as it's not everday that your average user would overclock anyway.

[mascotzel]

Five flavors of Intel's P35 Express compared - Motherboards from Abit, Asus, Gigabyte, and MSI (@TEchReport)

ABIT-ul iese alegerea redactiei,urmat de Gigabyte

MSI P35 Platinum (@[H]enthusiast)

ASUS P5K Deluxe WiFi-AP Edition (@[H]enthusiast)

MSI P35 Platinum: Redux (@AnandTech)

[lucky_may_be]

ASUS P5K3 Deluxe - high-bandwidth mobo(@Hexus)

As it currently stands, though, and looking at our benchmark results once more, it's hard to recommend a motherboard that's compromised by expensive memory[DDR3 memory] which is currently barely any faster than incumbent DDR2.

ECS G33T-M2(@TweakTown)

The P35 chipset has really given us something to look forward to, overclocking has already shown to be superior to that of the P965 chipset, and with the new G33 chipset for the value series, it’s clear Intel has gone from strength to strength in recent times...and [G33] it’s a definite improvement over the Q965 and G965 series...
G33 performs identical to P35 with discrete graphics.