Bearlake in teste

[lucky_may_be]

ASUS P5K Deluxe Motherboard Review(@WCCFTech)

The performance difference is mind boggling. The P35 chipset allowed me to shift to 1333Mhz FSB without changing any stock settings. Faster timings for your DDR2 and pushing your CPU to the limit without any extra voltage, what else can you want? For the true enthusiasts, this card offers a massive amount of over-clocking options.

Asus P5K Deluxe WiFi(@CDR Info)

Abit IP35-E Socket 775 Motherboard(@Overclockers Club)

Pros:

* Ease of Operation
* Easy Overclocking
* Spacious Layout
* HDMI Ready
* Gaming Performance
* Attractive Pricing

Cons:

* Double Reboot Issue
* Passive Cooling
* 1 16x PCI-e Slot
* No Firewire
* Not RAID Capable

The bad was that my CPU would only run a max FSB of 355. While this is not a big issue, with a higher multiplier I was expecting a little more. With that being said, 3550 MHz isn't too shabby of an overclock

In our suite of gaming benchmarks, it consistently out-performed the other chipsets, sometimes by a wide margin. Something that was quite unexpected, considering the strengths of the 680i chipset, are in the area of graphics and memory performance. Without all the bells and whistles that its top of the line brethren feature, this board performs at a level sure to please.

[lucky_may_be]

Experience the Roller Coaster:MSI P35 Platinum(@xbitlabs)

MSI P35 Neo(@ChileHardware)

Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3P(@Bjorn3d)

[lucky_may_be]

Adevaraciune de placa...
si un review entuziasmant...
Abit IP35 PRO (@OvercleX)

S-a obtinut cu ea 4840 MHz pt X6800, 4871 MHz pt QX6700 si 5000 MHz cu un E6700!!!
Una dintre cele mai tari Bearlake-uri ever!

incap pe ea mega-coolere...

Abit IP35 PRO has a surface very released around the socket thus allowing him a great compatibility with the radiators imposing dimensions like the Infinity Scythian for example.

stabila si overclockabila in draci...

Allured from any point of view... This Abit IP35 PRO does not suffer, for me, of any defect and I hope that Abit will not be long in providing others bios in particular making it possible to increase the maximum frequency of the FSB with 700MHz via the bios.
Really turned towards the overclocking, the software of uGURU appears easy to use and very stable even when it acts of the use of tension higher than 1.8v.

poate fi cumparata lejer cu ochii inchisi...

I thus decided to allot the ultimate note of 5/5 to him what corresponds to very good even excel produces, to buy the closed eyes!

Nu mai zic de pret,putin peste 500 RON...
PS Din prima pagina a reviewului puteti trece pe engleza,daca cititi din pagina in pagina!

[lucky_may_be]

Trilogia Bearlake-urilor Abit pe chipset P35 continua la Overclockers Club...
Dupa Abit IP35-E Socket 775 Motherboard,prezentat si mai sus,avem un review interesant,in care IP35 Dark Raider apare printre altele vs IP35-E.

Abit IP35 Dark Raider Socket 775 Motherboard

Dark Raider vine cu un bundle putin mai bogat si desi BIOS-ul e cam acelasi in optiuni cu IP35-E,posibilitatile de OC sunt superioare,disparand la Dark Raider si suparatorul dublu restart prezent in conditii normale la IP35-E...

... it fared equal to or better than the IP35-E in our testing, with the exception being overclocking! This is not what it sounds like. The good news is that the "Dark Raider" fared better on the overclocking front than the IP35-E. I was able to reach a clock speed of 3645 MHz by running the processor at 405 x 9 instead of 355 x 10 on the IP35-E.
Overall, that equates to better performance from this board. The double reboot issue that was so frustrating on the E model only shows it ugly head on this board when you run too far out of spec. As long as you are on the correct side of that ragged edge, it does not exist.
During the video benchmarking phase of our testing, the results were on par with what the E model delivered and again, better than the competition in almost all of the tests.

MSI P35 Platinum(@PCStats)

[Neon Biker]

Cine a mai vazut sa testezi cu multiplicatorul la 9-10 si apoi sa tragi concluzii aiurea? Iar faza cu bootarea dubla e cel putin ciudata din moment ce placile sunt aproape identice iar BIOS-ul este unul singur pentru ambele placi.

[lucky_may_be]

Abit IP35 Pro Motherboard(@bit-tech.net)

It's good to know Abit can still make a great board and one that is completely designed with the enthusiast and overclocker in mind. It's no MAX board, but for £120 it's a damn sight cheaper than the IN9-32X MAX and should overclock to at least similar levels. With such a tailoring to this niche of user we can forgive Abit for some of the board's shortcomings, like very few USB ports and PCI-based Ethernet controllers. Also, if you consider the attention to detail with design tweaks like the enhanced power regulation, uGuru and large voltage adjustment potential, including the ability to adjust GTL Reference voltage.

My personal preference is for Abit's uGuru tech over MSI's CoreCell as well, but that's only because I've been using it for years. Abit fanboys should lap this board up as it has all the makings of a legendary board providing you can tame the overclocking demon and you either know how to or learn how to use the extra features.

There are quite a few really great boards on the market the chipset of P35 upgrade is made ever harder, but if you do decide on the Abit P35 Pro you definitely won't be disappointed.

Cel ce a facut reviewul se cam impiedica in detalii,spune ca placa vine cu 4 cabluri SATA,dar in poza se vad clar 6...

Originally Posted by Neon Biker

Iar faza cu bootarea dubla e cel putin ciudata din moment ce placile sunt aproape identice iar BIOS-ul este unul singur pentru ambele placi.

Asa e,pot sa confirm,Abit IP35-E merge poticnit la pornire ori restart(are dublu restart)...Mi-am cumparat-o ieri,placa vine intr-un bundle ingrijit,cu strictul necesar,mi-au placut indeosebi cablul IDE negru cu insemnul Abit,detaliile din manual despre meniul BIOS,layout-ul in sine ...pacat ca n-am ajuns mai departe de faza cu dublu restart(nu am imagine pe monitor),tot o bajbai cu procesoarele suportate,ce ziceti,ar merge sa pun pe ea (provizoriu pana pe 22-24) ceva f ieftin,de genu' Celeron 420 sau Pentium 4 540? ...Celly 420 cred ca ar merge,dar Lentium 4 nu bag mana-n foc...totusi ar fi cazul sa bage si astia de la Abit o "Supported Processors List "(am tot cautat-o si degeaba) si sa vina mai repede cu upgrade-ul de BIOS care sa faca sa dispara restartul ala f aiurea...

PS apropo,valabil pt acest weekend,daca are cineva un C2D(chiar si de vanzare eventual) si vrea sa ma ajute sa o testam cat de cat,il astept/invit pe la mine,fie ii imprumut placa,fie o testam la mine cu un CPU care sa fie ok.

[Gizăs]

Cu Celeron420 si un pic de overclock o sa ai performanta mai mult decat satisfacatoare, desigur nu in aplicatii multithreaded.
De ce nu iti iei un E2140 ? Ma rog, depinde si de cat te duce memoria, Umax 800 ar fi o alegere decenta.

[mascotzel]

nu-s mare branza celeroanele astea

[lucky_may_be]

Multumesc pt sfaturi,Gizăs!
Problema nu ar fi atat ca sunt slabe,dar atat Celeroanele astea Conroe-L cat si Pentium-urile E nu sunt C2D 100%,astfel incat poti avea diverse surprize pe un P35....una simpatica ar fi sa nu mearga nici un OC la ele,placa sa nu booteze cu ele decat default... Daca va uitati aici,nu vedeti nimic incurajator...,iar aici aveti confirmarea problemei.
Oricum,tinta mea k sa-l tin cateva luni,nu zile,e un C2D veritabil,dar dupa 22...

[Neon Biker]

Cu E21x0 sau cu Celly 4x0 poti avea surprize pe IP35-E, iar cu NetBurst si mai rau. Eu in locul tau mi-as lua un E4400 dupa 22, iar apoi peste un an, un an jumate, dupa ce apare Nehalem, as trece la un Yorkfield ieftin.

[lucky_may_be]

ECS G33T-M2 Intel G33 Express Motherboard Review(@PCStats)

MSI P35 Platinum(@Tbreak)

Revenind la Abit-ul IP35-E din semnatura,pot sa spun:
1)Bearlake-urile,cum remarca si NeonBiker pe un forum strain nu booteaza cu memorii mai mici de 667 MHz,ceea ce personal am omis la prima asamblare si aveam ecran negru tocmai datorita unui modul de Corsair VS 512 MB de 533 MHz ...placa practic nu avea memorii deloc...
2)a doua faza cu memoriile este ca Abit IP35-E recunoaste 1,2 sau 4 module,daca puneti 3 o sa le vada atat in BIOS cat si in Windows doar pe cele 2 puse in dual channel;
3)a treia faza cu memoriile este ca se pun destul de greu atat pe slot cat si sa le faci sa se pupe cu BIOS-ul,urechile/clipsurile de la capat ies cu totul daca fortati putin(si acum am un clips sarit cu totul din slot),iar BIOS-ul trebuie resetat din CMOS de cate ori se umbla(se scoate sau se pune) o memorie...La placile Intel pur si simplu nu ma durea capul,schimbam memoriile lejer,fara reseturi de BIOS sau alte minuni,imi aparea doar la bootare mesaj frumos ca memoria sistemului a crescut/scazut...
4)jumperii de CMOS sunt pusi ca naiba in mijlocul sloturilor PCI,aproape de PCI ExpressX16 astfel incat doar ultimul PCI de jos poate fi folosit daca aveti treaba cu CMOS-ul;
5)la instalarea pachetului de drivere,e bine sa aveti net,intrucat driverele USB daca vreti sa le instalati de pe CD se deschide doar o pagina de Mozillla sau IE si ia-le de unde nu-s daca esti lipsit de net,asta ar fi o alta tampenie...
6)nu are port clasic de imprimanta,pe langa lipsa de suport RAID sau Firewire.
7)placa are dublu restart/"se poticneste" la bootare...
3,4,5,6,7 le consider minusuri...normal.
Insa sunt si plusuri destule de remarcat:
1)in primul rand performanta,practic si default,placa se misca excelent in jocuri ,am observat o ameliorare clara fata de Q965 cu 2 GB,ce aveam inainte,in conditiile in care am testat Abit-ul cu doar 1 GB;
2) nu a trebuit sa reinstalez Windowsul,desi aveam drivere de Intel DQ965GF;
bine,nici toate driverele Abit nu le-am putut instala...dar alea de chipset si de placa de sunet au mers unse...
3)placa de sunet on-board Realtek are o interfata prietenoasa si sunetul nu e deloc rau,dar parca tot mai bine se aude Creative-ul Ensonique...
4)BIOS-ul e full de optiuni de OC;
5)placa dispune de HDMI Audio Header(conector audio High Definition pt placile video cu sunet).
Ce m-a impresionat,repet,a fost performanta si ca se misca chiar default excelent.

In legatura cu procesorul,multumesc pt sfaturi,NeonBiker,de acord 100%,dar de fapt buba era la memorii,n-am pus XMS2-urile tocmai pt ca era de munca cu 4 sloturi,in conditiile in care sar si clipsurile alea ca popcornu',de-asta am pus una mica de 533 MHz(se punea mai usor si alta nici nu aveam in afara de XMS2) si daca nu boota placa am zis ca e de la procesor si ca-mi trebuie altul,dar de fapt P35 nu ofera suport pt memorii la 533 MHz...

Scuze de lungimea postului,sa nu-mi cereti totusi sa reinstalez XP-ul,o saptamana macar stau asa aproape default sa vad diferenta dintre Q965 si P35.

[Neon Biker]

Felicitari pentru minireview lucky!

Culmea este ca am mentionat de memorie aproape intamplator, pentru altii care ar fi citit threadul respectiv, ca din semnatura ta dedusesem ca nu asta poate fi problema. Anyway, e verificata treaba si la altii. Pe forumul abit-usa tot asa a aparut acum vreo 3 saptamani unu' cu DDR2-533 si cum i-am zis sa incerce macar 667 i s-a "vindecat" imediat IP35-E-ul. De asemenea nici Asus P5K nu porneste cu 533, verificat.

Anyway bine ca s-a rezolvat. Astept si niste manevre de OC dupa ce te "acomodezi" cu placa.

PS. Driverele pt USB ar trebui sa fie in SP2. Nici macar la batranul Abit NF7 pe socket A nu le aveam pe CD decat pentru Win 98/Me.

[lucky_may_be]

Originally Posted by Neon Biker

Felicitari pentru minireview lucky!

PS. Driverele pt USB ar trebui sa fie in SP2. Nici macar la batranul Abit NF7 pe socket A nu le aveam pe CD decat pentru Win 98/Me.

Multumesc pt aprecieri,insa la drivere am gresit eu,scuze,nu trebuie drivere USB decat pt Windows 2000(exceptand SP4)...si sunt in oricum in (XP)SP2,cum spui...dar habar n-am de ce e pusa chestia asta cu drivere USB in kitul de drivere Abit IP35...cand am instalat voiam sa instalez tot ce era pe CD,nu aveam net sa vad ce e si m-a deranjat cand am vazut trimitere la net pt USB ...in fine...
Cat despre manevrele de OC ,am inceput sa fac cate ceva,dar planuiesc intai de toate sa instalez totul pe curat(XP SP2) si diseara sper sa pot posta niste rezultate...care sa umple un "mini-review".

Pana atunci un excelent review Abit IP35-E gasit pe forumul Anandtech...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813127031

Comes will all Japanese capacitors and low-profile solid caps at the CPU power regulation circuit. The IP35-E uses the same PWM RT8802A IC as the top-of-the-line IP35 Pro. There was no buzzing or ringing from the board's power circuit during Orthos and S&M's test sessions. Blue board with blue southbridge, northbridge, and MOSFET passive heat sinks. RAM slots are color-coded (white/black) for dual channel operation. Plenty of clearance around CPU area, although I had to trim 1/4" from the Big Typhoon's top bracket to clear the northbridge heat sink.

There's a molex plug to provide additional juice to the video card. The 24 pin power plug is located at the middle front of the board, just above the PATA connector. The floppy connector is positioned at the bottom front, next to the front panel header (with speaker output). There are 4 USB ports at the back, plus four USB 2.0 port headers to the left of the front panel header. The 8-pin/4-pin power plug is located just above the MOSFET heat sink. Starting from the bottom rear, we have three PCI slots, one PCIE x1 slot, one open slot to provide clearance for a larger PCIE graphic card, one PCIE x 16 slot, and one PCIE x1 slot.

Abit includes a S/PDIF output and a rear panel optical out. Audio is 7.1 channel HD audio by Realtek. The Gigabit LAN is connected thru the PCI bus, not PCIE! As a result, the maximum throughput will probably be lowered by about 35% with higher CPU load.

This is a 4-phase P35/ICH9 board will full support of 1333MHz FSB, capable of keeping up with the 8-phase Asus P5B Deluxe. One JMicro PATA port, 4 SATA 3Gb/s ports just above the floppy connector in a 2 x 2 layout. One LED for power, one LED for standby. No 1394. No RAID.

Like many P965 boards, this IP35-E is also plagued by the double boot issue during startup. Installation is straightforward with WXP Pro SP1. No need to hit F6 for special drivers. The shipped 11 BIOS (5/24/07) is very stable. To return to the previous stable setting, disconnect power to the board, re-apply power, and hit DELETE to access BIOS.

This board overclocks a little better than the Asus P5B Deluxe...at least with my E4300. Only need to bump up Vcore, Vdimm, and change memory divider to 1:1.25 (Kingston DDR2 800 ValueRam @ 477MHz 5-4-4-12-2T 1.95Vdimm). Chip is stable at 3.51GHz (390x9) with 1.5Vcore. Vcore in CPUz is 0.02V lower than BIOS. Vdroop is 0.02V. No FSB hole between 360 and 425MHz. My 800MHz FSB chip would not boot above 425MHz FSB with lower multiplier, but I'm sure that this board is capable of driving the E63xx chip to at least 480MHz FSB.

CPU fan header will work with 2-pin, 3-pin, or 4-pin fan. Other three fan headers are monitored by CPU or case temperature. The sophisticated FanEQ will accept a target temperature, tolerance, and start/stop control from 30% to 100% of rated fan speed. My 2-pin 120 x 38 mm Panaflo ramps up/down smoothly with this ABIT fan control system. SB and MOSFET heat sinks run cool. NB is warm under full-load, but not as hot as the Abit IB9.

[There is no 1T timing adjustment.] Fortunately, the six memory divider settings provide adequate fine tuning of the memory speed. Owners of ValueRAM will appreciate the 1:1, 1:1.20, and 1:1.125 memory dividers, starting as low as 200MHz FSB. C1E and EIST speedstep works well. The BIOS permits manual adjustment of Vcore, Vdimm, CPU VTT, Vnorthbridge, Vsouthbridge, CPU GTLREF, PCIE frequency, CAS, RAS# to CAS #, RAS # precharge, precharge delay, refresh cycle time, write recovery time, write to read delay, act to act time, and read to precharge.

Boot time under WXP Pro SP1 with one 7200 rpm PATA Seagate 7200.8 and 2GB RAM is a speedy 26 seconds (power ON to first appearance of desktop). Haven't discovered any major fault with this board after several days of testing.

Finally, let's take a look at power consumption. The power measurement was taken with a calibrated ammeter connected in series to the AC line. The test rig includes Windows XP Pro SP1, one EVGA 7100GS PCIe video card, one 80GB WD HDD, 2GB Kingston DDR2 800 ValueRAM (1.95Vdimm), one E4300 at 3.44GHz (1.465Vcore), one floppy drive, one Microsoft 4000 keyboard, and one Logitech optical mouse. The power supply is an Antec SP350. To obtain the approximate true load of these components, simply multiply these numbers by 0.73 (average efficiency of the Antec PSU).

C1E/EIST ON:
-Idle...121 watts
-Load (orthos Large test)...262 watts

C1E/EIST OFF:
-Idle...134 watts
-Load (orthos Large test)...262 watts




This same setup with an Asus P5B deluxe yields the following numbers...

C1E/EIST ON:
-Idle...160 watts
-Load (orthos Large test)...305 watts

C1E/EIST OFF:
-Idle...160 watts
-Load (orthos Large test)...305 watts

I suspect the 16 to 32% increase in power consumption is due to the Asus' 8-phase power circuit, plus on-board bells and whistles. CPUz shows a drop in multiplier and Vcore when iding, but the actual current draw at the AC line did not decrease. C1E/EIST were enabled in Asus' latest 1101 BIOS.

I don't have a good E63xx for evaluation, but based on my experience with this E4300, I believe that Abit has put out a highly overclockable board at a very attractive price. This board is the Intel evil-twin of EVGA/XFX's 650i Ultra. The Nvidia boards have RAIDs, but are populated with lower-quality capacitors. Abit's fan management system is one of the best in the business. Now Intel has a low-cost solution to compete with Nvidia.

Edit: There's a new BETA BIOS for the IP35 Pro with 1T command.

http://www.ocxtreme.org/forumenus/showthread.php?t=1193

UPDATE 07-07-07

Managed to overclock an E6320 to 3.415GHz (488MHz FSB x 7 multi) with 1.51Vcore. NB, SB, and VTT were bumped up one notch to 1.29, 1.55, and 1.2375 respectively. Memory divider @ 1:1 with 5-4-4-9-2T timing.

Speedfan and CoreTemp 0.95 report 53C under Orthos Large mode (75F ambient). S&M shows 68C with 85C TJunction. The same program reports 100C TJunction on my E4300, which may explain why I'm seeing an additional 14C under load with the 4300. 1M Super Pi time of 14.860 seconds. CPU will boot into Windows at 494MHz FSB x 6 multi and run 1M Super Pi, but the system is not stable at this level of overclock. Memtest is OK.

This Abit IP35-E board has a minimum useable FSB frequency of 488MHz with a slight bump in NB, SB, and VTT. I suspect +500MHz FSB is possible with a better chip. My sample appears to have a 495MHz FSB wall.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/f...1&posted=1#post2314971

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Trilogia Bearlake-urilor Abit pe OverclockersClub

Abit IP35-E Socket 775 Motherboard 5 Iulie

Abit IP35 Dark Raider Socket 775 Motherboard 11 Iulie

Abit IP35 Pro Socket 775 Motherboard 18 Iulie

Concluziile acestui ultim review sunt complete asupra celor 3 mobo-uri...

After testing the first two boards in the companies trilogy, I was left wanting something more. Were they stable? Yes they were. Did they perform? Yes they did. As an enthusiast I was hoping for the most from all three of the boards. At stock settings all three perform similarly without anything but feature set to distinguish one from the other with no clear cut winner in performance. Now when it comes to overclocking I reached FSB limitations on each board, 355 on the IP35-E, 405 on the IP35 "Dark Raider" and 490 on the Pro version.

While not the 500+ some have been able to reach my CPU reaches its limit at 490 FSB. While able to boot at 500 FSB it just would not load windows. At 490 FSB, though, it is 12+ hours Orthos stable, a feat in itself for the tested CPU. This, by the way, is higher than any of the boards I have had the pleasure of reviewing.

With that being said, it was easy to get this kind of overclock on the testbed CPU. Rumors of the P35's P965 type FSB scaling seem to be true when it comes to the Pro version in the series. At a price point far below some of the high end boards on the market (Including their own) Abit has a winner on their hands with the IP35 Pro. If you are ready to make the jump into the Core 2 Duo overclocking frenzy keep this board on top of your short list. Without any setup problems or little gremlins to chase down it has proven itself.
It was indeed a "Wild Ride"!

...voi reveni si eu cu ale mele concluzii dupa propriile teste,destul de modeste,putin mai tarziu...
Nu schimbati deci pagina de pe CG!

[mascotzel]

cam stupide concluziile astora de la OCC
in genul:minusuri - lipsa SLI

[lucky_may_be]

Pana grupez testele,bag niste poze ca o scurta prezentare...aveti o poza,ultima, cu principala sectiune de OC din BIOS,SoftMenu...

[lucky_may_be]

Primul rand de teste le-am facut cu OC 50% la E4300@2.7 GHz(voltaj default),cu sistemul din semnatura,memoriile au fost setate 4-4-4-12,voltaj 1.9V,frecventa 750 MHz...Cooleru' este Arctic Alpine 7 si asigura temperaturi intre 40,idle si 55 full load...e ok.
Am testat pe curat,fara tweakuri,cu 3DMark2001SE,PCMark05 (doar suita CPU si HDD),SuperPI si Everest Ultimate 2007.
Sunt f multumit de cum se misca E4300 @2.7 GHz,nu-mi doresc mai mult,chiar unele videoklipuri se vad mai repede decat mi-as dori......in NFS Carbon,rar FPS-urile scad sub 30,de fapt mai mereu sunt 38-40,in calitate medium,cu Sapphire X1600Pro default.

[lucky_may_be]

Al doilea rand de teste e facut cu E4300@3 GHz(OC 67%),o crestere mica de voltaj de +0.02,adica 1.345V...memoriile,XMS2 au fost voltate la 1.95V si duse 800 MHz,latente 5-5-5-15.In rest nu am modificat nimic.
In acest caz,proportia se mentine,+10%OC=+10% in teste(2.7 fata de 3 GHz)

Rezultatele testelor sunt destul de apropiate de cele de pe Overclockers Club,E4300@2.7 GHz atinge performante similare cu E6700 default (folosit si de OCC in trilogia lor),iar la 3 GHz il depaseste clar pe acesta din urma in 90% la suta din teste.

Concluzie...Abit IP35-E este o placa Eftina,care are ca plusuri:
-chipset recent,cu suport 100% pt procesoarele de 1333 MHz;
-suport generos si nu f complicat de optiuni BIOS,nu numai de OC;
-solida,dar care in privinta clipsurilor de memorie e prost asamblata...
-performanta,mai ales in jocuri,poate bench-urile nu spun totul,dar eu asa am simtit-o de prima data(default),chiar nu ma asteptam...
-layout si bundle ok;
-ca orice P35,12 USB;
-placa de sunet Realtek se aude si se vede (interfata) super ok.
Minusuri:
-restartul dublu,dar care nu apare daca il faci din Windows;in rest,chiar si la pornire sau la iesire din BIOS,apare;cum s-a mai spus,poate un upgrade de BIOS va rezolva acest "-";deocamdata acesta nu a aparut...
-un alt neajuns e controllerul Jmicron...sfatul meu e sa evitati orice device-uri pe IDE k sa scapati de dureri de cap...
-clipsurile de memorii prost asamblate,la placa Intel,fosta,nici cu clestele nu stiu daca se smulg...
-"doar" 4 SATA,fara RAID sau Firewire.

Eu ii acord nota 7.5,cu sfatul ca daca aveti macar 60 RON,se merita sa treceti la o varianta superioara poate ca asamblare si racire,si cu ceva dotari in plus.Dar tot Abit!

[mascotzel]

Originally Posted by lucky_may_be

-performanta,mai ales in jocuri,poate bench-urile nu spun totul,dar eu asa am simtit-o de prima data(default),chiar nu ma asteptam...

si cate placi ti-au trecut prin mana?

sa o porti sanatos...imi place si mie seria

[lucky_may_be]

Originally Posted by mascotzel

si cate placi ti-au trecut prin mana?

sa o porti sanatos...imi place si mie seria

In ultimile 3 luni,e a 3-a placa...le miros ce le poate "pielea",de fiecare data am pastrat "procesorul de la fosta"(si celelalte componente,HDD,memo,VGA)...
merci de urare,dar parca nu-mi place cuvantul "sa o port",aduce a service...

[C.@M.]

Sal lucky_may_be, eu am varianta Pro Snake si cateodata cand umblu pe la optiuni la OC, placa are dublu restart (si nu se salveaza optiunile setate de mine), ori nu mai porneste, si trebuie sa dau clear cmos. Sper ca cei de la Abit sa rezolve problema asta.