Bearlake in teste

[lucky_may_be]

MSI P35 Diamond(@bit-tech.net)

The MSI P35 Diamond performs well but isn't exceptional and the additional extras are a welcome effort but might not appeal to everyone.
I constantly found myself writing "disappointed" here and there, which I still am - it just doesn't live up to what we'd expect from a Diamond-series board - especially since I've seen what the X38 Diamond has in potential.

Foxconn MARS: God of War Performance?(@Anandtech)

Our E6400 reached a final FSB setting of 520. We were unable to reach the advertised 575FSB that Foxconn has shown. Any attempt to boot the board past 530FSB resulted in three beeps and a return to stock settings.

After some experimentation, we found the board was very easy to overclock, though it requires higher memory voltages than our other P35 boards.

...we honestly have to say that Foxconn surprised us; the performance potential is definitely there, the layout is right on, and the feature set is competitive in this class.

ASUS P5E3 Mobo – X38 and DDR3 is here(@TweakTown)

ASUS has truly done a good job at this early stage of the race, hopefully with new BIOS updates and better revision silicon in the future we will see overclocking beyond the 600 MHz FSB mark.

Awarded with TweakTown Must Have

Gigabyte GA-X38-DQ6 (@HardwareZone)

Since the first revision of the GA-P35-DQ6, Gigabyte has had time to revise the PCB design of the board and the GA-X38-DQ6 is very much more cable friendly than before. The small tweaks here and there make the board easier to work with and less cluttered, all good things.

The general performance of the GA-X38-DQ6 has also improved over the GA-P35-DQ6. Benchmark results now put the GA-X38-DQ6 almost on par with the likes of the ASUS Blitz Formula.

MSI X38 Diamond Preview(@HZ)

...what was most interesting is that the X38 Diamond features four PCIe x16 slots.

[lucky_may_be]

ASUS P35 Bearlake Roundup (@FiringSquad)
ASUS P5K Deluxe and P5K3 Deluxe

The P5K Deluxe took the overclocking crown from the ASUS Striker Extreme. The P5K3 didn’t fair much worse. Their performance was at least average, usually at the top of the P35 boards. In general, all the high end P35 boards had similar performance.

ASUS Blitz Formula and Blitz Extreme

The Blitz boards do not handle maximum chipset voltage very well. Water-cooling is definitely suggested if you decide to use the Blitz boards for heavy overclocking.

MSI P35 Platinum(@cpu3d)
CPU3D Highly Recommended

The overall performance of the MSI Platinum was quite a surprise. It competes very well against some of its competition and produced very good scores all round.

Gigabyte comes with four X38 mobos (@matbe)

Gigabyte proposera donc quatre cartes mères basées sur le chipset X38, les X38T-DQ6 (DDR3) et X38-DQ6 (DDR2) avec deux ports Ethernet Gigabit, et les X38T-DS5 (DDR3) et X38-DS5 (DDR2) avec un seul port Ethernet Gigabit.

[alexm_mr]

daca x38-ds5 o sa fie in jurul pretului de 450 ron imi iau si eu o bucata

[lucky_may_be]

Atentie!
Se pare ca Gigabyte P35-DS3 nu respecta standardele de radiatii FCC si nici pe cele europene sau taiwaneze,aceasta placa fiind retrasa de pe piata nord-americana.
La noi,se va pune aceasta problema?...sau inghitim orice?!
Wake Up America: Who's Watching out for EMI?(@DailyTech)

At one time, the GA-P35-DS3 was available at U.S. and European merchants, but today is no longer available in North America. When asked why the model had been removed from the U.S. channel, Brix could not offer a response.

Unfortunately for the GA-P35-DS3, several complaints were filed. The Electronics Testing Center, Taiwan, began an electromagnetic compliance test; three Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3 motherboards were hand-submitted to the lab. Three out of three test results failed to stay "in bounds" for Taiwanese and EU regulation (PDF); two out of three failed to stay within U.S. FCC regulation.

Later Edit
alexm_mr,sunt vreo 240 de euro,e clar ca nu sunt "chilipiruri".

[red-dog]

Originally Posted by lucky_may_be

ASUS Blitz Formula and Blitz Extreme

E clar ca nu pierzi nicio okazie sa denigrezi Asus,dar si eu pot sa dau cel putin 5 link-uri unde Asus este mai buna fata de concurenti si unde cei care testeaza sunt uimiti de ce poate...blitz formula,evident

De ce crezi ca este un handicap faptul ca are instalat waterblock pe chipset? eu as spune ca este un avantaj pentru cei care prefera racire pe apa,oricum merge fanless fara probleme

[lucky_may_be]

Originally Posted by red-dog

E clar ca nu pierzi nicio okazie sa denigrezi Asus,dar si eu pot sa dau cel putin 5 link-uri unde Asus este mai buna fata de concurenti si unde cei care testeaza sunt uimiti de ce poate...blitz formula,evident

De ce crezi ca este un handicap faptul ca are instalat waterblock pe chipset? eu as spune ca este un avantaj pentru cei care prefera racire pe apa,oricum merge fanless fara probleme

red-dog,am schimbat putin review-ul,recomandand Deluxe...,in comparatie cu Blitz Formula.
La cat e de scumpa(300$),Blitz Formula n-ar trebui sa aiba vreun defect si in plus daca e batuta in teste de Deluxe sau de alte placi mai putin scumpe,nu poate fi o alegere prea buna.In plus,la banii aia iei deja un X38,sau daca esti in America,mai pui 30 $ si iei 2 Abit-uri IP35-Pro(165 $ bucata).
Oricum,dintre placile Asus P35,Asus P5K-E pare lipsita de orice "bube",fiind si in top cu performanta si OC-ul.

[red-dog]

nu stiu cum se face,dar ,am impresia ca esti fixist

uite un link unde poti vedea ce note are fiecare placa dupa mai multe sesiuni de teste...asta ca sa nu mai bati campii aiurea...ca poti sa iei X38 cu banii dupa blitz formula ??? chiar nu vad ce importanta are,tu ai vazut ce dotari ai la o placa ROG ?

Probabil esti genu care crede ca un Logan nou este mai bun fata de un BMW second(in aceiasi suma de bani)

Tu crezi ca producatorii fac preturi mai mari la anumite placi de baza pentru a le admira in vitrina ? te inseli rau !


P.S. blitz formula este mai scumpa cu 70 ron fata de varianta De-Luxe,pentru ca merita

[Red_Dragon]

Originally Posted by lucky_may_be

Atentie!
Se pare ca Gigabyte P35-DS3 nu respecta standardele de radiatii FCC si nici pe cele europene sau taiwaneze,aceasta placa fiind retrasa de pe piata nord-americana.
La noi,se va pune aceasta problema?...sau inghitim orice?!
Wake Up America: Who's Watching out for EMI?(@DailyTech)

OMG, tocmai am dat comanda eri pt. un sistem nou cu placa de baza giga p35-ds3r !!! Sa ma astept ca-mi va creste un al treilea ochi in frunte sau ce naiba...

ps: this sucks imi fac cernobal in casa

[lucky_may_be]

Red_Dragon,stai calm,placa aleasa e foarte ok,recommended,nu de alta dar se vinde si-n USA.

red-dog,nici acum nu ti-ai dat seama ca Blitz Formula a pierdut in testele respective in fata lui P5K Deluxe?...Asta e,se mai intampla,vrei sa fiu masochist si sa o recomand?!..vino cu review-uri si recomanda si tu ce vezi p-acolo,esti liber sa o faci.
Cat despre campi batuti aiurea,da si tu pe alte thread-uri unde Asus sta mai bine...certuri cu SATA,BIOS bulit,condensator explodat,dar nu in vreme de razboi,etc.

[alexm_mr]

Originally Posted by Red_Dragon

this sucks imi fac cernobal in casa

stai linistit, nici telefoanele mobile sau televizoarele nu sunt mai prejos la radiatii...

[planoru]

Nu va iradiati bai de la EMI. N-o sa puteti vorbi la telefon sau o sa va bruieze tv-ul, dar n-o sa aveti probleme la cap.

he engineer continues, "Some manufacturers put the FCC logo on their product even though they don't send in to any lab. If they are lucky, they go by. If they are unlucky, they get fined by the government or in some serious case, issue a product recall."

[lucky_may_be]

Gigabyte a dat dezmintire...
Gigabyte blames shady competitors for excess radiation readings(@TheInquirer)

It seems a little strange that one of our top selling boards just so happened to have a negative report from the Taiwan ETC several months after the launch of the product...
Clearly, this is a malicious act by a competitor to negatively impact GIGABYTE motherboard sales, and they have used the Inquirer to do so.

Cert e un lucru,placa a fost retrasa din statele care impun FCC,iar Gigabyte nu a oferit explicatii asupra acestui aspect.
Raspuns oficial,aici.

1. All GIGABYTE motherboards have undergone a rigorous evaluation and EMI testing to make sure it passes FCC & CE certification before entering the market.

2. GIGABYTE United Inc. takes the responsibility in resolving any EMI issues arise from using GIGABYTE motherboard with any kind of Case, Power Supply, Keyboard, Mouse, Display Card and other PC peripherals.

[lucky_may_be]

Se pare ca Gigibyte P35-DS3 n-a reusit sa sperie cangurii,insa a reusit sa-l puna pe proprietar in situatia sa aleaga,ori TV ori P35-DS3 .Se pare ca a ales TV-ul....
Amuzant e debutul povestii,cand tipul de pe continentul australian banuia alte motive,ma rog,ceva aerian,poate OZN-urile,apoi ceva "subteran",cablurile,oprindu-se pana la urma suspicios asupra sursei TT de 600W,pe care era gata sa o dea draq.

Anyone come across this before?

Ive been having big trouble with televisions lately and we thought something went with the aerial or wiring. But eventually found the problem is my brand new PC. When running it creates strange patterns on analogue tv and drops digital reception by about 40%. It also ups the bit error level to 40% which is crazy. It seems to produce electrical interfere on all points in the house.

I bloody hope that is a good enough reason to take it back to MSY. The PSU is a Thermaltake ToughPower 600W. Ive never really trusted TT to be honest but it was the only 600W model with a 8pin pci-e at the time.

Apoi,si-a dat seama de vinovat cand a vazut stirea rosie de mai sus pe forumul Whirlpool.

Ive got one of these boards and it stuff up all my tv's in the house. I'm hoping I can get Gigabyte to take it back as at the moment its bloody useless. Glad I came across the article earlier or I might not have had anything to go on.

I was surprised when no one else had had the problem though back when I made a thread about it, I thought it was the PSU.

Asa ca...Watch out,guys!

[Cosmin_C]

Am primit si pozitia oficiala a Gigabyte Romania, si anume faptul ca nu exista nici o problema generala de lot, P35-S3/DS3 sunt OK din punct de vedere al EMI. Eu voi continua sa recomand respectivele modele pentru ca raportul pret/calitate este unul din cele mai bune de pe piata. Probabil a fost un caz izolat, si chiar daca s-a intamplat la cativa oameni ma indoiesc ca la alte placi nu exista aceleasi probleme rare, izolate.

P.S. Eu am P35-S3 care e practic identica cu DS3, doar ca are condensatori solizi numai pe alimentarea procesorului, in rest sunt Rubycon clasici. Telefonul are semnal maxim si se aude perfect - si am un LG pretentios la semnal - la TV se vede totul impecabil iar in sistemul audio destul de pretentios nu am nici un fel de zgomot de fond sau paraziti. Daca as fi auzit vreun parazit cat de mic in boxe ma duceam in China si le dadeam cu placa in cap.

[lucky_may_be]

Cosmin_C,Gigibyte Romania ce sa zica si ei,cert e ca americanii s-au pus la adapost de P35-DS3.La ei,ori respecti normele FCC,ori vinzi marfa unde stii tu.Au de unde alege si la fel si noi,sunt destule P35 pe piata,altele decat P35-DS3.
Ar fi cazul sa vina cu o nota de trecere sau o dezmintire de la ETC.

Asus this time P5KC,a nice solid capacitor once again exploded(@XS Forums)

I've tested my QX6700 CPU on aircooling with P95 smallFFT @ 3.6GHz 1.46v and after 15 minutes I heard a big booom, and big smell, like something was burned.. and after I've seen the "result".. so if you are Quad user, the fets and those capacitors next to the socket must have cooled with a fan, doesn't matter aircooling or extreme!

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Nu sunt chiar mari probleme cu P35-DS3,insa are un nivel de zgomot putin mai mare(5 dB) decat admit regulamentele,si normal,depinde mult si de carcasa,daca placa ajunge sa interfereze EM.
Americanii sunt mult mai severi si panicarzi(daca vorbim de presa cu acel Wake up America) cand vine vorba de produse "cu cantec";nu trebuie ca toate P35-DS3 sa aiba probleme,e arhi-suficient ca 2 din 3 sa aiba ceva(lucru certificat de un institut in care americanii au incredere) pentru a fi retrase de pe marea piata nord-americana.

A motherboard itself failing an EMI test is not a cause for concern. A good metal case can negate any EMI being produced by a motherboard with no adverse effects on surround equipment but the regulations are there for a reason. If there were no regulations on the levels of EMI that an electronic device can produce then everything would interfere with everything else. When you're getting into the dozens of electronics devices that run simultaneously in the average household, that could end up being a very big problem.

Argumentul ca are cineva ceva cu Gigabyte e cam subred...Alte placi de la alti producatori(Asus,MSI) n-au avut probleme de "zgomot".

...The problem with this reasoning is that both Asus and MSI had boards that were included in the test and their boards passed all certification requirements. So if someone had managed to pay the ETC to fail competitor motherboards, Gigabyte would not have been the only target.

Link(bit-tech.net)

ECS P35T-A and Gigabyte GA-P31-DS3L(@HotHardware)

Gigabyte GA-P31-DS3L :This board is actually less expensive and is based on older technology with its ICH7 Southbridge. However, despite the technology limitations, this board delivers (for the most part) identical performance to that of more expensive P35 Express boards.

HOT
* Cheap! Around $80 USD.
* Overclockable, Flexible BIOS
* Lavish Onboard Audio Configuration
* Low Power Consumption

La noi e 233 RON,highly recommended pt bugete mici.

[lucky_may_be]

ABIT IX38-MAX Motherboard Preview(@PCStats)

[lucky_may_be]

ECS G31T-M Mainboard (G31/ICH7) review )@Guru3D)

The BIOS however does allow you to change your FSB and handles it nicely.
We pushed the Core 2 Duo E6600 processor used for this review (2400 MHz) to a 1333 MHz FSB instantly and without any issues on the reference air cooler.

Guru3D recommended as a cheap&nice Bearlake solution (49$).

Asus P5E3 Deluxe WiFi-AP(@Bit-Tech.net)

Asus Maximus X38 Preview(@Overclex)

[lucky_may_be]

DFI LanParty UT P35-T2R(@NinjaLane)
NinjaLane Rating : Furious 5 of 5(Amazing Results & Extremely Easy Overclocker)

Intel X38 vs P35 Chipset(@LegionHardware)

The only real advantage to the X38 is support for the PCI Express 2.0 standard utilized by the dual PCIe 16x slots, for better Crossfire support and perhaps even SLI.
Reports have indicated that SLI works around 8-10% faster on the X38 when compared to the nForce 680i chipset.

Therefore at this stage it seems safe to suggest that for normal gaming use there will be no difference between the P35 and the X38 chipset.

[lucky_may_be]

Intel X38 and Foxconn X38A(@Hexus)

...we simply don't know if X38 is going to offer any kind of noticeable performance improvement over the P35 or nForce 680i SLI.

It's a very complete chipset but, in terms of bangs for bucks, the P35 will most likely match it for single-GPU and CrossFire configurations, while the 680i remains the logical choice if you want to run SLI.

Nine P35 Motherboards Dutch Review(@Hardware.Info)
Gigabyte P35-DQ6-Gold Award
Gigabyte P35-DS3R-Silver Award
MSI P35 Neo-F-Bronze Award
In grafice nu sunt mari diferente,exceptand consumul unde anumite placi se remarca.

[SickUser]

Consumul ala mai mare al lui Asus P5K se reflecta si in temperaturi cumva ? Si daca da cam care e diferenta fata de o placa de baza "normala" cu chipset P35 - 1-2 grade sau mai mult ?