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Old 18-06-2002, 16:32   #1 (permalink)
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CANBERRA, Australian (Reuters) -- In a breakthrough out of the realms of Star Trek, scientists in Australia have successfully teleported a laser beam of light from one spot to another in a split second but warn: don't sell the car yet.

A team of physicists at the Australian National University (ANU) announced on Monday they had successfully disembodied a laser beam in one location and rebuilt it in a different spot about one meter away in the blink of an eye.
- http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/science...eut/index.html
- http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci...00/2049048.stm

Totusi, sa teleportezi ceva viu e mai greu, nu de alta da' moare pe parcurs Oricum daca s-ar putea teleporta un animal s-ar dovedi existenta sufletului

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Old 18-06-2002, 21:13   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Teleportarea

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Totusi, sa teleportezi ceva viu e mai greu, nu de alta da' moare pe parcurs Oricum daca s-ar putea teleporta un animal s-ar dovedi existenta sufletului
I'll bite. De ce?
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Old 18-06-2002, 22:02   #3 (permalink)
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E un mare pas inainte, intr-adevar. Can o sa fim noi boshorogi, poate o sa ne teleportam in Hary's la intalniri forumologice.
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Old 18-06-2002, 23:56   #4 (permalink)
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heh... macar de-ar invata sa teleporteze chestii nevii pana ajungem noi bosorogi... asa ne-am putea macar teleporta bauturile acasa, daca ploo afara sau ne e prea lene sa mergem la intalnire
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Old 19-06-2002, 00:31   #5 (permalink)
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Problema e spinoasa, de fapt nu stiu daca ei au teleportat unda aia sau au creat una identica la destinatie. Si in plus problema majora e cum descompui/transformi un "ceva" material in energie, ca sa ai ce teleporta.
 
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Old 19-06-2002, 02:09   #6 (permalink)
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Si ce ENERGIE iti trebuie ca sa teleportezi un om?
 
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Old 19-06-2002, 04:16   #7 (permalink)
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Re: Teleportarea

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Oricum daca s-ar putea teleporta un animal s-ar dovedi existenta sufletului
Nu inteleg de ce s-ar dovedi existenta sufletului astfel.
 
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Old 19-06-2002, 08:10   #8 (permalink)
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Old 19-06-2002, 08:37   #9 (permalink)
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M-ar interesa definitia sufletului, mai intai...
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Old 19-06-2002, 09:47   #10 (permalink)
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Daca nu ma inseala memoria, s-au mai facut experientze de genul asta. Problema spinoasa e cum reasamblezi jucaria la capat. Faci o harta a atomilor ? N-as prea crede.
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Old 19-06-2002, 09:57   #11 (permalink)
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pai si daca faci o harta a atomilor nu prea cred ca obtii mare lucru... sa presupunem ca recreezi un obiect bazandu-te pe informatiile din harta aia. asa si? o sa fie doar o ingramadire de atomi. cine spune ca atomii aia n-or sa se imprastie care incotro? sau e ceva ce nu inteleg io?
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Old 19-06-2002, 10:01   #12 (permalink)
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mai degraba inexistentza sufletului ;D
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Old 19-06-2002, 10:47   #13 (permalink)
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Eh, ce-i mai greu a trecut.
Mai tre' sa inventeze compensatoarele Heisenberg si ne-am scos.
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Old 19-06-2002, 10:49   #14 (permalink)
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Tehnobabble alert !!!!
Da acuma mai serios , cum ar fi sa mergeti pe o insula pustie si sa aveti gigabit la purtator ?
Dar pe Marte ? Comunicatii instant .
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Old 19-06-2002, 11:54   #15 (permalink)
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Din cite stiu, cu fotoni e usor, pentru ca exista corelatiile nelocale Einstein-Podolski-Rosen.
Si tind sa fiu de acord cu LifeSucks. Daca demonstrezi ca sufletul tine de o structura materiala pe care o poti dezintegra si reintegra dupa bunul plac....
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Old 19-06-2002, 13:08   #16 (permalink)
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O harta a atomilor se poa' face, sa zicem, macar in mare, nu poti avea pretentia ca atunci cand te teleportezi din A in B sa ai toate firele de par in aceeasi directie. Aviz celor (baieti sau fete) care doresc anumite cresteri
Anyway, sufletu' nu este facut din atomi. Simpla explicatie, nu?

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Old 19-06-2002, 13:30   #17 (permalink)
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sa lasam sufletul

ca e prea complicata o definitie a lui....
mai usor ar fi cu memoria individului cind ajunge la destinatie... va mai exista?
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Old 19-06-2002, 13:39   #18 (permalink)
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Ba pot. Shi am. Pretentzia cu firele de par. Pentru ca am pretentzia ca totzi neuronii sa-mi fie ashesatzi la fel la destinatzie, sa fiu tot eu, deci nu e absurd sa cer acelashi lucru referitor la par. Ce rost ar avea sa faca o harta atat de detaliata incat totzi atomii sa fie la locul lor, inclusiv cu incarcatura electrica originara (adica toate particulele subatomice la loc, cu directzia shi viteza de mishcare originare), shi apoi s-o modifice ca sa-mi stea parul altfel ? Nici unul. Nu in teleportarea-transport.

Teleportarea-tratament medical e deja altceva. Prima data sa obtzinem originalul la destinatzie, mai vedem dup-aia ...

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Old 19-06-2002, 14:26   #19 (permalink)
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Principala problema pe care o vad eu in legatura cu teleportarea este timpul. Teoretic spuneti ca prin definitie teleportarea este instantanee (orice ar fi insemnind aceasta ) insa eu nu prea cunosc procese fizice din natura care sa se produca instant. Si, desigur, din asta apar urmatoarele tipuri de probleme:
- de unde incepe teleportarea? De la cap, de la picioarare?
- ce se intimpla cu jumatatea din mine care e intr-o parte si jumartatea cealalta care e in cealalta parte?
- unde se duc "gindurile", "imaginile", "sunetele" procesate de creier daca jumatate de sinapsa/neuron/etc. lipseste?
- ce se intimpla daca precizia de recreere a creierului de 10 la -12 mm e depasita cu un 0 o fractiune de secunda? Voi mai avea aceiasi personalitate si aceleasi aptitudini? O fluctuatie de curent cit de mica poate insemna diferenta intre un nebun si un geniu in cazul asta

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Old 19-06-2002, 14:45   #20 (permalink)
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hmm, bai, da cum transportzi materia????
bon, ca faci o harta a atomilor shi akolo o recreezi, asta nu ar fi imposibil, in viitor, da materia??

sau faci unu nou la destinatzie? shi raman shi io la plecare????
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