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Old 05-02-2009, 11:47   #9821 (permalink)
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Panasonic's Slimmer Greener TVs

Z series :

The 50-inch screen model about an inch in depth that consumes an estimated 260 kilowatt hours of electricity a year is likely to sell for 600,000 yen ($6,685) and a 54-inch model for 700,000 yen.

http://www.cdrinfo.com/Sections/News...x?NewsId=24776

The V series is avaiable in both PDP with the Neo Plasma panel with size ranging from 42", 46" and 50", but also with a LCD panel (New IPS alpha W Speed technology), with a size ranging from 32" to 37". Prices for the PDP models are estimated to be 400,000 yen ($ ), 370,000 yen ($) and 300,000 yen ($) for the 50", 46" and 42" models respectively. The full HD LCD versions are expected to sell for 220,000 yen ($ , 37") and 200,000 yen ($ , 32").

Finally the G series, is the entry level series with both PDP and LCD TVs (also full HD), featuring the same Neo PDP Panel and IPS alpha W LCD panels found on the V series as well as size ranging from 32" to 50". The difference between the V and G series is just design difference and cheaper material for the G Series.

In addition, the G series features a 40,000:1 contrast ratio.

si o lista mai clara de posibile preturi : http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...php?p=15722866

TH-P54Z1: ¥700,000 (About USD 7,777)
TH-P50Z1: ¥600,000 (About USD 6,666)
TH-P46Z1: ¥550,000 (About USD 6,111)

TH-P50V1: ¥400,000 (About USD 4,444)
TH-P46V1: ¥370,000 (About USD 4,111)
TH-P42V1: ¥300,000 (About USD 3,333)

TH-P50G1: ¥350,000 (About USD 3,888)
TH-P46G1: ¥300,000 (About USD 3,333)
TH-P42G1: ¥250,000 (About USD 2,777)
 
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Old 05-02-2009, 12:06   #9822 (permalink)
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E foarte bun TV-ul bre, nu vad ce ar fi de spus. Daca te gandesti la el sint sigur ca ai facut-o dupa ce ai citit cate ceva si stii cu ce se mananca.
Daca vrei sa mai economisesti ceva poti sa te uiti si la Samsung 40A656 care ca performante e la fel de bun.
Stiu ca e bun, se cam plang oamenii de afara de 'norisori' in conditii de scene intunecate si camera intunecata, si parca nu as da banii astia in conditiile in care hdtv o sa vina in cativa ani buni... oricum, comparatia cu Samsung A656 nu prea tine, W4500-le e mult mai avansat tehnologic, dar 656-le e chiar un TV bun (socrii mei au, si eu am ramas uimit de 'cum' se poate vedea un film!)

Nu stiu ce sa fac.. ufff :-)

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Old 05-02-2009, 12:49   #9823 (permalink)
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Principalul avans tehnologic e tunerul HD la W4500. Vezi ce note au W4500 pe trustedreviews.com
Sony Bravia KDL-46W4500 46in LCD TV Review - TV Reviews - TrustedReviews
Sony Bravia KDL-52W4500 52in LCDTV Review - TV Reviews - TrustedReviews

da, ok 40W4500 nu e ...

La pretul la 40W4500 iti iei Samsung seria 7 40A756.

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Old 05-02-2009, 15:13   #9824 (permalink)
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Stiu ca e bun, se cam plang oamenii de afara de 'norisori' in conditii de scene intunecate si camera intunecata, si parca nu as da banii astia in conditiile in care hdtv o sa vina in cativa ani buni... oricum, comparatia cu Samsung A656 nu prea tine, W4500-le e mult mai avansat tehnologic, dar 656-le e chiar un TV bun (socrii mei au, si eu am ramas uimit de 'cum' se poate vedea un film!)

Nu stiu ce sa fac.. ufff :-)

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Sony KDL40W4500 / KDL40W4500U Review

Benchmark Test Results
Dead pixels None
Screen uniformity Clouding and backlight bleed reducible to negligible levels
Overscanning on HDMI 0% with [Display Area] set to “Full Pixel“
Blacker than black Passed
Black level Excellent (0.05 cd/m2 calibrated)
Black level retention Stable
Primary chromaticity Excellent with [Colour Space] “Standard“
Scaling Above average
Video mode deinterlacing Average; limited jaggies reduction
Film mode deinterlacing Poor; Failed 3:2/ 2:2 cadences in 480i/ 576i
Viewing angle Good for an LCD TV (90°)
Motion resolution 650 with [Motionflow] engaged; 300 otherwise
Digital noise reduction Acceptable at baseline
Sharpness Undefeatable edge enhancement on 1080i/1080p
1080p/24 capability (PS3) Accepts 1080p/24 video signal; no telecine judder
Input lag 0-10ms in [Game Mode] or over VGA; 30-50ms otherwise

Samsung LE40A656 Review – 40” 1080p 100Hz LCD HD TV

Benchmark Test Results
Dead pixels None
Screen uniformity Clouding reducible to negligible levels
Overscanning on HDMI 0% with [Size] set to "Just Scan"
Blacker than black Passed
Black level Excellent
Black level retention Stable
Primary chromaticity Good after calibration with "Custom" [Colour Space]
Scaling Above average
Video mode deinterlacing Very good; effective jaggies reduction
Film mode deinterlacing Passed 3:2 and 2:2 cadences in all resolutions

Viewing angle Good for an LCD TV (90°)
Static resolution Fully resolved 1920x1080 over HDMI & component

Motion resolution 650 with [100Hz Motion Plus] "High"; 300 when off
Digital noise reduction Acceptable at baseline
Sharpness Defeatable edge enhancement
1080p/24 capability (PS3) Accepts 1080p/24 video signal; no telecine judder
Input lag (rel. to Samsung F96) On par in [Game] mode or over VGA; 30ms slower otherwise


Cons [a656]
[100Hz Motion Plus] may introduce interpolation artefacts like tearing, stutter or shimmering around moving objects

Shiny "Ultra Clear Panel" reflects ambient light and causes glare
Mild input lag (except in "Game" mode or over VGA) may affect sensitive gamers
Some clouding and backlight unevenness (though reduced to unobtrusive levels after calibration)*
Slight low-pitched hum from back of TV unless the screen is very bright*



Acum, e o chestie de alegere personala pt ca sunt destul de apropiate..eu unul as merge pe w4500..prin Live Colour creation-ul de la Sony totusi se extinde paleta de culori si parca culorile sunt mai vii si mai naturale...pt Samsung tb facuta o mica calibrare daca esti pretentios si te deranjeaza...si pannelul e cam reflexiv la Samsung ...deinterlacing-ul insa e mai bun la Samsung..deci depinde la ce te uiti mai mult..una peste alta oricum faci un compromis oricum ai da-o..nu exista ceva bun la toate :-)

..si intr-adevar ca feature ce le diferentiaza e acel tunner daca te gandesti la DVB-T [protv Hd, tvrhd], sony are acel tunner...nici cu sunetul nu sta rau..are s-force front surround..dar oricum tv-ul e cam scump. Daca nu te intereseaza neaparat 100Mhz motion flow poti merge si pe w4000 care e mai ieftin
 
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Old 05-02-2009, 15:39   #9825 (permalink)
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totusi diferenta de ~1100 lei intre a656 si w4500 nu este de neglijat...
 
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cu 700ron se poate lua un tuner dvb-t hd standalone (eboda sau sagem)

daca diferenta dintre cele 2 lcd-uri este mai mare decat pretul tunerului hd iar in rest sant cam egale ca si specificatii,avantajul lui sony(tuner hd) cade si ramane doar atractia brandului

deci daca sony are ca singur atu tunerul ha dar e mai scump decat samsung cu 1100ron ,cumpar tuner hd separat(700ron) si lcd samsung si economisesti 400ron.

asta daca stai in buc ,daca nu tunerul nu mai conteaza ci doar diferenta de pret dintre branduri

as alege varianta tunerului extern fiindca se poate folosi oricand si la alte tv-uri

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Old 05-02-2009, 17:42   #9827 (permalink)
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cu 700ron se poate lua un tuner dvb-t hd standalone (eboda sau sagem)

daca diferenta dintre cele 2 lcd-uri este mai mare decat pretul tunerului hd iar in rest sant cam egale ca si specificatii,avantajul lui sony(tuner hd) cade si ramane doar atractia brandului

deci daca sony are ca singur atu tunerul ha dar e mai scump decat samsung cu 1100ron ,cumpar tuner hd separat(700ron) si lcd samsung si economisesti 400ron.

asta daca stai in buc ,daca nu tunerul nu mai conteaza ci doar diferenta de pret dintre branduri

as alege varianta tunerului extern fiindca se poate folosi oricand si la alte tv-uri
partea proasta e ca ai 2 telecomenzi pe care trebuie sa actionezi pe care tot le schimbi ceea ce e suparator
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Old 05-02-2009, 20:01   #9828 (permalink)
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La pret am spus mai sus 40W4500 = 40A756 ! Si seria 7 as zice ca e peste W4500.
Pe moment da e util tunerul HD pentru bucuresteni dar in momentul cand vor fi pe cablu Pro si TVR HD avantajul Sony dispare.
 
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Old 05-02-2009, 21:20   #9829 (permalink)
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dar in momentul cand vor fi pe cablu Pro si TVR HD avantajul Sony dispare.
cand o face plopul pere...
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TVR si Pro TV in HD pe cablu? Ma indoiesc ca o sa fie vreodata?
 
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Old 05-02-2009, 22:39   #9831 (permalink)
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Superocazii - PLASMA & LCD : LCD MIRAI-T3715C
De ce este asa ieftin (950 de lei), desi are 94 cm si restul caracteristicilor similare cu alte TV-uri, Samsung, sa zicem.
Ati auzit de firma asta pina acum, Mirai ??
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Old 05-02-2009, 23:36   #9832 (permalink)
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Ati auzit de firma asta pina acum, Mirai ??
nu o sa ti recomande nimeni asa ceva si mai ales de la acea sursa...
 
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nu o sa ti recomande nimeni asa ceva si mai ales de la acea sursa...
Din acea sursa, adica site-ul ala, si-au luat pina acum 3 prieteni: 2 LCD si unul plasma. Merg perfect televizoarele, nu au absolut nici o problema deranjanta (un LCD avea lipsa, inca de la inceput butoanele de volume up/channel up, dar merge perfect din telecomanda, a primit reducere pentru asta).
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Si tie ti se pare normal sa iei un tv cu butoane lipsa....? eu unul nu mi-as lua asa ceva chit ca-mi da o reducere.
 
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TVR si Pro TV in HD pe cablu? Ma indoiesc ca o sa fie vreodata?
no offense, dar la ce varietate de filme exista acum pe blueray cine se mai uita pe protv la filme ?
 
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La pret am spus mai sus 40W4500 = 40A756 ! Si seria 7 as zice ca e peste W4500.
Pe moment da e util tunerul HD pentru bucuresteni dar in momentul cand vor fi pe cablu Pro si TVR HD avantajul Sony dispare.
Multumesc tuturor!

Intrebari:

1. Bucuresti inseamna si imprejurimi (adica mai precis Chitila)?
2. W4500 pe cablu analogic cum se comporta?
3. care sunt cele mai bune solutii de conectare la W4500 cu device-uri pt redare divX, dvdrip, HD, BluRayRip, etc?
4. vazusem pe undeva posibilitatea de conectare a TeVe-ului la antena satelit pt posturi HD pe satelit.. E posibil? Ce presupune?
5. Later Edit: ce inseamna 'SD' (Standard Definition) in context W4500? Redare filme, dar nu prin HDMI, cumva? Cablu analogic intra tot la SD?

Multam fain...
 
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Un sfat va rog pentru un raport cat mai bun calitate/pret pentru un LCD/Plasma de 37" FullHD? Sunt limitat de spatiu, de aceea nu caut mai mare.

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Un sfat va rog pentru un raport cat mai bun calitate/pret pentru un LCD/Plasma de 37" FullHD? Sunt limitat de spatiu, de aceea nu caut mai mare.

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Un sfat va rog pentru un raport cat mai bun calitate/pret pentru un LCD/Plasma de 37" FullHD? Sunt limitat de spatiu, de aceea nu caut mai mare.

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