PLASMA vs LCD

[Scuba]

Pentru cine pune un mare accent pe design conteaza chiar foarte mult .

[flavian]

Exact, ar trebui sa se concentreze pe treburi mai importante, nu grosimea e factorul hotarator cand cumperi un LCD care oricum e slim.

[Mandea]

designul implica mult mai multe decat grosimea. eu argumentul grosimii il vad important atunci cand vrei sa il pui undeva si nu incape pe masa, fiind prea gros. sau sa il agati de ceva. ori, lcd-urile sunt suficient de subtiri.

[oldshooterman]

Tot mai multe tari se pregatesc sa "taxeze" sub diferite forme produsele casnice mari consumatoare de energie. Produsul in discutia anterioara se remarca in primul rind prin imbunatatirea sistemului de iluminat care reduce consumul si greutatea, facindu-l mai "green product". Grosimea e consecinta care "se vede" cind te uiti la el, inainte sa-i citesti caracteristicile...(se specifica ca greutatea redusa il face manipulabil de catre o singura persoana si e mai putin pretentioasa prinderea pe perete, pentru cei care-l vor pe perete)

Parerea unui tip care si-a luat acum o luna un Vizio 47" FULL-HD 1080p, 5ms, etc...cu 999$: "I've had this TV for a month and couldn't be happier.It's huge! The picture is awesome and fully adjustable. I heard a lot of trash talk about black levels in LCD's, but I don't see any problem(I't only bothers you if you are a super geek)."

[Mandea]

daca lui, 47" i se pare huge, imi inchipui ca si restul opiniilor sale sunt la fel de pertinente. si mie mi se pare mare, si ca nu negrul e problema la LCD-uri (sincer, mie imi plac chestiile colorate, nu negre, deci de ce mi-ar trebui cat mai mult negru), dar sunt persoane care au 50" la bloc, pt ei sa vii sa ii spui ca 47 e huge, e blasfemie
ce vreau sa spun e ca depinde ce ai avut inainte si ce pretentii ai, asa si un crt de 51m e suficient.

[oldshooterman]

Ideea e ca Pentru oamenii cu venituri modeste exista deja posibilitatea sa-si ia LCD-uri mari (peste 42" sint considerate a fi in clasa "mari") si cu imaginea de calitate buna la preturi foarte acceptabile - 999$ pentru un 47" FULL-HD. (vorbim de piata americana si de tendinta de ieftinire a HDTV in general)

[oldshooterman]

Se pregateste: "KURO LCD TVs for smaller screen sizes:
The KURO LCD TV range is ‘HD ready 1080p’ compliant with 100Hz frame mode, offering an unmatched fast moving picture performance. What is more, the LCD TVs feature an anti-reflective filter, triple HDMI 1.3 support and a specially tuned, high-standard picture quality. This latest Pioneer product is available in three sizes: 32 inch, 37 inch and 46 inch and differentiates itself from KURO plasma TVs in terms of design with an attractive ‘aluminum look’ finish."

In timp ce lupta dintre LCD si Plasma continua, "Mitsubishi LaserVue RPTVs Coming Soon!" "LaserVue will debut in 65-inch and 73-inch, with the 65-inch version hitting the scene first...Have no fear: the blacks are black, the brights are bright, and the viewing angle puts DLP to shame...LaserVue draws under 200 watts, about half that of LCD and a third of plasma...And is 3D Ready!"
Imi place si designul, in mod deosebit.

[mobutu]

De ce nu spui tot ce-au scris engadget despre laser:
"Head to head against LCD and plasma sets we had trouble finding the differences, other than the color depth (particularly in the reds, almost too much so, though we're sure you can tweak that). Have no fear: the blacks are black, the brights are bright, and the viewing angle puts DLP to shame. That said, we're hearing price points are going to be more comparable to plasma and LCD than DLP, so Mitsubishi might have its work cut out for it in convincing consumers that these new "chubby," 10-inch thick TVs are the way to go. We're not entirely convinced ourselves, though one aspect can't be disputed: LaserVue draws under 200 watts, about half that of LCD and a third of plasma."

[oldshooterman]

"10-inch thick" e in punctul cel mai adinc (considerind sectiunea triunghiulara), ceea ce la o diagonala de 65" e foarte putin (ar putea fi mai putin decit grosimea piciorului de sustinere). In plus mai are si alte avantaje despre care o sa amintesc cind se dau specificatiile finale. Referitor la calitatea imaginii, majoritatea celor de la demonstratii au fost convinsi (intotdeauna vor exista "chibiti"). Abia astept un pret la "jucaria" asta.

[oldshooterman]

"Look for the 65″ Laser TV - Model L65-A90 (Mitsubishi) to debut in North America in late November 2008."

Cel mai subtire HDTV de dimensiuni mari: Sony BRAVIA ZX1, 40-inch, 9,9mm grosime, LED backlighting.
Sony Bravia ZX1 – ultra-thin LCD TV with separate wireless Media Receiver
http://www.gizmag.com/sony-bravia-zx...receiver/9883/

[oldshooterman]

Se pare ca va fi cam scump LaserVue, cel putin la inceput.
"Mitsubishi has priced their 65-inch LaserVue HDTV that will begin shipping to Diamond stores at the end of this month and you may want to sell your car or take out a second mortgage. That’s a bit of an exaggeration, but the 65-inch set will cost a smidgen under $7,000, which is on par with other 60+-inch HDTVs, but there’s no word on the 73-inch set, yet."

Sony introduce o noua serie de LCDTV dotata cu "Motionflow 240Hz technology"
http://www.twice.com/article/CA6592606.html

[oldshooterman]

Sharp introduce pe piata o noua serie de LED LCD-HDTV: "New LCD TVs include the Aquos HDTV LE (Limited Edition) series with LED backlighting in three screen sizes — 65 inches (LC-65XS1U-S), 52 inches (LC-52XS1U-S) and 42-inches (LC-42XS1U-S). All ship this month at pricing to be announced.

Models in the series include a cabinet depth measuring less than 1 inch at its thinnest point. Features include 10-bit Advanced Super View 1080p LCD panels, and Fine Motion Enhanced 120Hz frame rate conversion with a 4ms response time for smooth motion sequences." http://www.twice.com/article/CA6592608.html

[oldshooterman]

Din impresiile unui tip care a vazut pe viu noul LaserVue:
"I had an appointment at Mitsubishi HQ in Cypress, CA. They have this HDTV in their
side lobby in the front of the building hooked up to a blue ray player running their
commercials in 1080p.

I'll let you all know right now this is the greatest TV anywhere on the planet.
Better than any LCD or plasma or DLP made right now.

Absolutely stunning picture quality and the colors are amazing.
Deep blacks, unreal picture almost 3D like.
Off angle view is as good or better than plasma.
Pretty thin, you could hang it on the wall but it would look kind of goofy."

Inca e cam scump de adus in RO: 7000$ "jucaria", 1000$ transportul, 1500$ vama+TVA, 500$ un adaptor ca sa mearga pe TV in RO = 10.000$

[Mandea]

de parca putea sa si zica altceva, dupa ce a fost pe acolo invitat probabil. hai sa fim seriosi. sunt absolut de acord ca e mai bun, dar sa nu mai incerce sa ne pacaleasca ca sa dam banii. sunt o societate de consum, dar nu e cazul sa ne impuna ei cat sa consumam.

[stefanap]

Ar trebui scris ca in afara SF-urile scrise de 3 pagini avem doua optiuni.


Super plasma Panasonic la 107 -127 cm versus un LCD full HD la 1080p la 32 - 84 .

[Lionhunter]

Originally Posted by oldshooterman

Din impresiile unui tip care a vazut pe viu noul LaserVue:
"I had an appointment at Mitsubishi HQ in Cypress, CA. They have this HDTV in their
side lobby in the front of the building hooked up to a blue ray player running their
commercials in 1080p.

I'll let you all know right now this is the greatest TV anywhere on the planet.
Better than any LCD or plasma or DLP made right now.

Absolutely stunning picture quality and the colors are amazing.
Deep blacks, unreal picture almost 3D like.
Off angle view is as good or better than plasma.
Pretty thin, you could hang it on the wall but it would look kind of goofy."

Inca e cam scump de adus in RO: 7000$ "jucaria", 1000$ transportul, 1500$ vama+TVA, 500$ un adaptor ca sa mearga pe TV in RO = 10.000$

Nu inteleg....plasma are probleme cu off angle view?Adica,nu am auzit de asa ceva...si nici nu am vazut.

[k-man]

Originally Posted by oldshooterman

Deep blacks, unreal picture almost 3D like.

sper sa nu fie asa, pentru ca ar putea fi o problema. unii prefera o imagine cat mai reala/naturala. exista deja destule lcd-uri care produc imagini "ireale".

[oldshooterman]

Probabil imaginea e "stralucitoare" si din unghiuri extreme, dar e un aspect de detaliu dupa parerea mea nesemnificativ, pentru ca nu se uita nimeni din lateral la TV. Cam toata lumea cauta o pozitie cit mai centrala pentru privit. In general TV-urile cu retroproiectie au o imagine mai atenuata din lateral si omul a urmarit acest aspect. O sa caut unul prin octombrie sa-l "studiez" personal.
Eu am fost extrem de placut impresionat de noua generatie de HDTV cu retroproiectie de la Mitsubishi, modelul de 73" la 2300$ l-am pus pe lista, il prefer oricarui LCD sau plasma (tinind cont de calitatea imaginii, greutate, consum si in special pret/dimensiune!).
"unreal picture almost 3D like" poate sa se refere la faptul ca imaginea fiind foarte "crisp" se creaza efectul de adincime (pseudo 3D), care e un lucru foarte pozitiv!

[Andi]

Originally Posted by Mandea

dar sa nu mai incerce sa ne pacaleasca ca sa dam banii. sunt o societate de consum, dar nu e cazul sa ne impuna ei cat sa consumam.

Ce figură eşti! Parcă ţi le bagă pe gât cu forţa Ei doar îţi oferă o variantă mai bună. O vrei, bine, nu, să fi sănătos

[sorel san]

Buna am citit postul acesta si ma doare capul la cat de multa info am gasit ( unele postari degeaba) si tot nu am inteles chiar 100 % care e mai bun . intentionez sa cumpar un 37pv80 in special pt receptia tv 2-5 ore pe zi , jocuri consoal xbox360 si filme de pe un dvd , pc. merita sal cumpar sau sa iau mai bine un lcd? tot la bani astia ar mai fi ceva toshiba fullhd sau nou seria sams37a450??? ce parere aveti ?

mersi