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Old 16-11-2007, 17:17   #1 (permalink)
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Cel mai mare antrenor roman din toate timpurile

Asa se refera dl. Cartianu cand vorbeste de Mircea Lucescu.

http://evz.ro/article.php?artid=330856

Si din pacate, nu e singur. Voi ce credeti, care e cel mai mare?
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Old 16-11-2007, 17:19   #2 (permalink)
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Fa poll, cu ocazia asta.
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Old 16-11-2007, 17:30   #3 (permalink)
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Nu, pt ca asta ar insemna sa va influentez eu si nu vreau asta.
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Nu-s atatia antrenori cate optiuni are pollul.
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Old 16-11-2007, 17:39   #5 (permalink)
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Topurile astea sunt de rahat.
Nu se poate alege `cel mai mare`
Mari: Jenei, Covaci, Lucescu, Iordanescu, etc.
Cel mai mare dpdv al performantelor e Covaci.
 
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Old 16-11-2007, 17:50   #6 (permalink)
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Adica tu zici ca dl. Cartianu (si multi) sunt de rahat? La lista as mai zice Boloni si Halagian.
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Old 16-11-2007, 17:54   #7 (permalink)
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Adica eu zic ca topurile astea sunt de rahat.
 
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Old 16-11-2007, 17:57   #8 (permalink)
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Old 16-11-2007, 18:27   #9 (permalink)
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Romani, Ienei ftw.

Covaci ar fi pe 2, a castigat 2 CCE cu Ajax, dar nu prea se compara. Aia era echipa facuta si plina de valori, mi se pare mult mai greu sa reusesti o asemenea performantza cu Steaua, o echipa care inainte de 1986 nu trecuse niciodata de primul tur in CCE.

Vis-a-vis de Cartianu si Dinu ... asta cam asa e, nea Vanea a fost un admirator "hardcore" al lui Lucescu. Chiar zilele astea am recitit "Pe marile bulevarde ale fotbalului" (calificarea Romaniei la Euro '84) si se vede clar simpatia usor exagerata pentru Lucescu. Ma rog, peste numai 2 ani Steaua avea sa castige CCE, sporind ura lui Mircea Lucescu pentru clubul militar.
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Old 17-11-2007, 18:10   #10 (permalink)
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Old 25-11-2007, 12:23   #12 (permalink)
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Mircea Lucescu fara nici un fel de discutie. A facut treaba la absolut orice echipa a mers, restul sunt toti antrenori cu performante legate de o conjunctura la un club si atat.
 
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Old 27-11-2007, 13:22   #13 (permalink)
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Detaliaza. Si spune-mi ce performantza a fotbalului romanesc depaseste perioada 1985-1990 de la Steaua (cu Ienei si Iordanescu antrenori).
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Old 27-11-2007, 13:30   #14 (permalink)
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1970 - califcarea adusa de Mircea Angelescu.

Aia a fost cea mai mare performanta si daca nu exista perioada 1986-1994, cu aia ramaneam, din 1930 incoace.
 
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Old 27-11-2007, 13:33   #15 (permalink)
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Si daca bunica era barbat era bunicul. Problema ta e ca a existat perioada "86-94.

Btw, cu sistemul actual de ranking, Steaua in "91 ar fi fost probabil pe locul 1 in Europa Evident Jenei.
 
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Old 27-11-2007, 14:14   #16 (permalink)
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1970 - califcarea adusa de Mircea Angelescu.

Aia a fost cea mai mare performanta si daca nu exista perioada 1986-1994, cu aia ramaneam, din 1930 incoace.
Foarte tare, ce pacat ca nu-l chema Mircea, ci Angelo, si nu Angelescu, ci Niculescu.
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Old 27-11-2007, 14:51   #17 (permalink)
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Foarte tare, ce pacat ca nu-l chema Mircea, ci Angelo, si nu Angelescu, ci Niculescu.
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Angelo, Angelescu. Mai conteaza? A fost "mare".
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Old 28-11-2007, 21:25   #18 (permalink)
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parerile sunt impartite...si nu cred ca exista unul care sa aiba titulatura asta...perioade diferite/ lumi diferite/ fotbal diferit...practic nu cred ca putem ierarhiza...

mentionez nume grele precum Stefan Covaci, Angelo Niculescu, il bag si pe Lucescu cu toate ca dupa pererea mea nu prea merita...plus ca intr-un timp a continuat munca lui Angelo Niculescu si ma mir cum nu apar pe lista nume precum Ilie Oana, Constantin Otet(antrenorul celei mai bune echipe romanesti din toate timpurile dupa parerea mea, Craiova Maxima...cu toate ca nu a avut cele mai mari performante) si as mai continua cu Halagian...

asadar parerile sunt impartite...
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Detaliaza. Si spune-mi ce performantza a fotbalului romanesc depaseste perioada 1985-1990 de la Steaua (cu Ienei si Iordanescu antrenori).
Topicul e despre cel mai mare antrenor roman din toate timpurile, nu despre cea mai mare performanta a fotbalului romanesc. Ienei si Iordanescu au facut performanta cu jumatate din resursele unei tari la picioare. Ce-a facut Ienei pana in 86 sau dupa 90? Ce-a facut Iordanescu dupa ce au inceput sa puna ghete-n cui fotbalistii ridicati pe vremea lui Ceausescu? Lucescu a calificat Nationala la un turneu final dupa vreo 14 ani de pauza, a facut o echipa a lui Dinamo care era clar peste Steaua lui Ienei si Iordanescu (vezi Cupa furata la masa verde, vezi meciurile de dupa caderea lui Ceausescu) si pe urma a facut treaba peste tot pe unde a mers.
 
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Old 02-12-2007, 11:17   #20 (permalink)
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Pai si cealalta jumatate era la dinamo in ograda si s-a pisat pe ea, ah scuze, era clar peste Steaua Sa fim seriosi... mucescu a facut echipa si Jenei a fost doar acolo... nu a avut niciun merit...

Unde a facut mai treaba? La Besiktas? La Inter? La Shahtior? Pai daca intrebi la Iordanescu ce a facut dupa ce a plecat Hagi, intreaba si la mucescu. Si cu shahtior nu stie decat sa isi gaseasca scuze... Mare treaba ce a facut...
 
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