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Old 30-01-2008, 12:40   #1581 (permalink)
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2.8 is overpriced. nu-i suficient de luminos (sau suficient de sharp la 2.8) incat sa renunt la blitz. asa ca prefer o plaja mai larga (pana la 250 - 375mm echiv) la f/4, pentru bani mai putini.

de diferenta poti lua prime-uri 1.8 sau 1.4
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Old 30-01-2008, 13:06   #1582 (permalink)
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Tamron anunta 3 obiective noi cu motor AF incorporat (AF-S like) pentru Nikon-F.
Inclusiv ~vestitul 17-50 f/2.8

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Sony Develops 35mm full size CMOS Image Sensor with 24.81 Effective Mega pixel resolution and extremely high signal conversion speed for use in Digital SLR Cameras

Insemna ca cel mult intr-un an o sa avem cate un DSLR FF de rezolutie mare (cam prea mare IMO) de la Nikon si Sony cel putin.
Pentax anyone...?
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Old 30-01-2008, 16:03   #1583 (permalink)
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http://www.dpreview.com/news/0801/08...cmossensor.asp
mda, FF de la Sony
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Old 30-01-2008, 16:20   #1584 (permalink)
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Sonykon suna mai bine...?
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Old 30-01-2008, 19:19   #1585 (permalink)
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si uite cum Canon iar si-o ia in bot...aveau ocazia sa scaota acum 5D2-ul mai pricopsit de 16 mp, 6-8 fps samd...au scos 450 D ...e bineeeeeeee trebuie sa reinventeze fotografia ca sa mai poata recastiga ce tot pierd de juma de an incoace....
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Old 30-01-2008, 19:26   #1586 (permalink)
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Am o vaga impresie ca un Sony full-frame ar fi scump. Asa ca un 5DMkII ar fi mai interesant, pentru bugetele noastre... chiar daca n-ar bate ca rezolutie/viteza acel Sony.
16MP suna plauzibil, insa 6-8 fps? M-ar mira... deja si-ar face concurenta la MkIII-uri.
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Old 30-01-2008, 19:47   #1587 (permalink)
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da' poate omitem o chestie: posesorii de L-uri de 4-5000 euro Canon... crezi ca vor shifta asha ushor pe o electronica mai buna Sony ???
Robert Mekis a tras multe opere de arta cu un 300D si 18-55-ul din kit...
nu shtiu daca fotografii care au cumparat deja o intreaga "herghelie" de sticle vor avea vreun gand de shiftare... mai degraba new-commer-ii care iar nu cred ca "sar" la asha namile
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Old 30-01-2008, 22:26   #1588 (permalink)
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Inca 2 (doua!!!) DSLR-uri Sony APS-C

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Sony has announced another two DSLRs to join its Alpha range. In between the recently announced A200 and flagship A700 come the A300 and A350 live view-enabled DLSRs. Here are the specifications of the cameras that show just how seriously Sony is taking the camera market.

10..., 12..., 14... mpx
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“Mainstream users stepping up to DSLRs are looking for a similar experience to their point and shoot cameras, but without compromise in speed or performance” said Phil Lubell, director of marketing for digital cameras at Sony Electronics. “Quick AF Live View gives these new models a familiar shooting style without compromising speed – ideal for the growing market of first-time SLR users.”

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Soroo, mi-a loat Georgica o camera d-aia Sony mare si grea, asa neagra, cu lentila lunga ca ne-am luat o pisica birmaneza si la cat am dat pe ea mi-era nustiucum s-o pozez cu camera aia mica, o stii, p-aia roz de-am primit-o de la nasu'
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Old 30-01-2008, 22:32   #1589 (permalink)
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dar canon nu isi ia pumnii neaparat de la sony si nu neaparat direct.
nu mai au varful de gama, nu mai sunt cei mai cei...pot si altii.
apoi nikoncusiguranta va beneficia de tehnologia asta....avand siun D3 mult mai versatil nikon are deja unavantaj.
sa nu uitam mult laudata sticla L..nu e in totalitate asa cum se vrea...multi trag pe sticla alternativa si platesc bani multi pe ea...nikon/sony are altceva..mai scump sau mai ieftin, au ce sa ofere...

unb 5D2 facea treaba ACUM...peste 6 luni deja o sa fie cutotul alta discutia...

ceilalti demonstreaza ca POT, pot cel putin cat canon daca nu si mai mult... nu mai exista acea lipsa de libertate in upgrade la alte branduri...


@K daca nu o sa aiba minim 5-6 fps-=uri nu intra in concurenta cu D3-ul, nu ar mai fi un ff allround...p rezolutie nu cumpara nimeni, ai 1ds2 sh la fel de bune pt a inlocui 5d2, model, studio, etc...
la ce ar putea fi utilizat un 5d2 daca nu ca un ff versatil???
pretul si el nu va putea fi foartemic, va fi undeva la 3000-3500...pai actualul 5D sh, daca se va gasi, va fi de 10 ori mai ok la catcosta...

deci cum sa arate un 5D2 ca sa aiba un loc in piata daca nu un soi de D3 putin mai sarac (6-8 fps in loc de 10, eventual 5 cu8 in mod crop, o rezolutie putin mai mare , senzor de 1ds2, un af putin mai slab si o constructie intre actualul 5 si seria 1, pretzmai mic cu 1000 decat D3... )

un alt 5D nu ar avea sens...un 5D doar cu live view si digic 3??? cui ar folosi el? cine ar face upgrade? cat sa coste samerite upgrade-ul??

@andy oamenii nu migreaza decat cand nu li se ofera ce au nevoie. cei in discutie, profi, oricum isi AMORTIZEAZA sculele iar sticla si ce mai au prin casa oricum se vinde cupierderi minime...swichul nu e asa un capat de lume cum crezi mai ales ca repet, vorbim de oameni care castiga din asta si care depind de echipament....tu ce crezi, ca daca au apucat sa cumpere o chestie aia mor c ea de gat???pierd mai mult daca raman, asa se pune problema in unele situatii....

bunaoara, ai nevoie de un aparat cum e 3D...ai sticla canon...ce faci? iei tu frumos un 1d3, si cu AF in care nu ai incredere...mai iei tu un 5D... cat costa astea???si nu ai tot ce ofera un D3...schimbi?iata o categorie de fotografi care n-au stat pe ganduri asteptand ca aia de la canon sa isi dea ei seama de ce AF-ul ala scartzaie...
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Old 30-01-2008, 22:33   #1590 (permalink)
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Nu vi se pare ca se aglomereaza piata ? Sunt curios preturile cum vor arata in scurt timp la cei 3 producatori ) E totusi o piata pt incepatori unde si pretul conteaza.

Imi pot imagina cum arata Nikon D90. Cred ca Sony, Nikon (in viitor), Pentax au fortat inca odata nota cu 14 mpx. Probabil ca inca functioneaza acest mpx hype. Canon 50D ar trebui sa ia notite. Pana la PMA 2009 are de unde invata daca nu il scoate piata la pensie )
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Old 30-01-2008, 22:39   #1591 (permalink)
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Parintele, de ce-ar intra in concurenta cu D3-ul? 5D-ul e un SLR full frame ieftin, la ~2000$; D3-ul e parca vreo 5000. Nu te teme, de D3 (si de noul Sony) se ocupa seria 1
Upgrade, nu pentru cei ce au deja 5D.
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Old 30-01-2008, 22:48   #1592 (permalink)
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Dintr-o data Sony are 4 SLR in piata si cu FFul pe vine, cred ca are pretentii la o felie maricica. Ataca la greu in zona entrylevel si mi se pare logic devreme ce cumparatorul de entrylevel ar putea fi acel entuziast de electronica Sony care stie brandul si ramane fidel lui.
Pe de alta parte mi-e greu sa cred ca Sony nu va avea un FF intre A700 si acest FF Godzila.
Practic cred ca vror sa-si pozitioneze cate un SLR la fiecare suta de $.
Canon joaca si el cartea cu 2 SLR entrylevel.
Hmmm... ramane de vazut cine a tras lozul mai bun.
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Old 30-01-2008, 22:57   #1593 (permalink)
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huh ? 14 Mpixeli sony ? Mi se pare mie sau e o replica disperata, de ultim moment la Pentax K20D ? Oricum foarte agresiva miscarea lui Sony pe piata : 4 modele noi + un full frame
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Old 30-01-2008, 23:00   #1594 (permalink)
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un aspect important e si promovarea si publicitatea care se fac la seria Alpha de la Sony.
Practic, orice magazin maricel (Unirea, Mall, MediaGalaxy, etc.) are un stand SOny unde sub un plastic vedem sony Alpha cu vreo 3-4 obiective. cumva e normal sa bata momentan pe piata unde e si 400D-ul, mai ales pt ca 400D-ul l-am vazut de curand la MediaGalaxy. Acu e normal sa nu putem vedea un aparat profi intr-un magazin pt "general public", nu ? doar n-o aparea 1ds prin obor )
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Old 30-01-2008, 23:00   #1595 (permalink)
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Mda, Sony intr-adevar ataca puternic si s-ar putea sa aiba succes.
Insa... live view-ul acela vine cu un pret (vizor groaznic de mic). Iar noile obiective, well; sa ma scuzati da' pe mine un 24-70 f/2.8 la 1750$ sau un 70-300 f/4.5-5.6 la 800 chiar nu ma impresioneaza. Chiar daca pe unul scrie Zeiss.
Raz, nu exista "replici disperate, de ultim moment". Dezvoltarea unui senzor dureaza...
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Kunzite, existau zvonuri cu privire la senzorul de 15 (14,6) megapixeli a lui Pentax inca de anul trecut, timp suficient(la banii si capacitatea enorma a lui sony) sa se chinuie sa scoata si ei cat mai rapid asa ceva. Faptul ca nu au bagat 14 mp pe A700 si au facut asta pe un model intermediar lansat in mod ciudat impreuna cu altele, spune multe.
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Old 30-01-2008, 23:21   #1597 (permalink)
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huh ? 14 Mpixeli sony ? Mi se pare mie sau e o replica disperata, de ultim moment la Pentax K20D ? Oricum foarte agresiva miscarea lui Sony pe piata : 4 modele noi + un full frame
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Faptul ca nu au bagat 14 mp pe A700 si au facut asta pe un model intermediar lansat in mod ciudat impreuna cu altele, spune multe.
asta deja e teoria conspiratiei, cred ca pe Sony putin ii intereseaza de Pentax
 
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Old 30-01-2008, 23:29   #1598 (permalink)
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Eu cred ca si Canikon sunt foarte interesati de ce face Pentax (sau orice alt "jucator" pe aceasta piata)
Cu asta cred ca-si pot asigura locul 3, prin marketing agresiv adica - dar acum sunt convins ca pentru ei ori DSLR, ori playstation - tot cam pe-acolo ar fi Diferenta fata de-un producator consacrat se simte; inca o data-mi pare asa de rau pentru Minolta...
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Old 30-01-2008, 23:33   #1599 (permalink)
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Ma astept sa vad cat dureaza pana scoate Sony o editie speciala si limitata de DSLR-uri cu cristale Swarovski incastrate in body.
Daca vor sa concureze cu CaNikon, foarte bine, dar s-o faca cu cap, nu sa inunde piata cu j-pe modele ca sa incerce sa astupe si daca se poate sa insface cat mai multe segmente... Care in mare parte sunt pline de habarnisti cu ceva bani in tescherea si cu un shopping-spree-syndrome.
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eu cred ca e perfect ca piata se dezvolta...asta inseamna CONCURENTA... iar concurenta inseamna marfa buna si/sau ieftina yeeeeeessssssssssssssssss
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