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Old 17-08-2005, 10:55   #1 (permalink)
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Probleme cu ferestrele in Win XP

De la o vreme intampin urmatoarea problema:cateodata(perioade de 1h-1 zi..variabile)se intampla sa am 3-4 sau mai multe ferestre deschise dar minimizate in taskbar.Bun..o fereastra(orice tip,dc,azureus,win explorer,ototal commander,ym,winamp,orice) e maximizata si cand dau click stg pe una(oricare) din restul ferestrelor care sunt minimizate asta din urma nu se suprapune peste prima..decat ramane "apasata"(nu stiu cum sa zic..) in taskbar dar nu si pe restul ecranului.Singura solutie e "show desktop" si apoi click pe fereastra pe care vreau sa o maximizez si merge...dar e enervant sa fac asta mereu.
Am presupus ca e vreun virus/altceva si am scanat cu norton 2005 (la zi)si scan on line pe bitdefender,am norton internet firewall2003 la zi,scan cu spyware doctor si spybot ..nici unu nu gaseste nimik.
Problema asta a ineput acum 7-10 zile dar nu i-am dat in primele zile importantza dar acum ma cam deranejaza.Precizez ca am xp pro+sp1 si nu am facut nici un update(la xp) in ultimele 2 sapt.Pana atunci mergea perfect si nu avesesem problema asta..a aparut din senin(sau....???)
De ex in momentul asta nu imi face faza asta asa ca nu pot pune un screenshot-2 sa lamuresc un pic.voi reveni cu poze cand apare iar.
Nu stiu dc am explicat bine problema..PLS HELP si va rog sa ma intrebati ce nu intelegeti.
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Old 17-08-2005, 11:13   #2 (permalink)
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ok..chiar acum s-a intamplat..am facut un screenshot-se vede ca in taskbar e alta fereastra selectata dar nu ai e afisata.Nu e ceva nou ca atunci cand ai calc destul de ocupat cu scris dvd,dc++ trage cu sa zicem 10MB/sec sau procul e in 100% sau altele dureaza ceva din momentul in care am dat click pe o fereastra din taskbar pana e afisata in totaliate pe ecran dar la mine nu se intampla asta nici dupa 2-3 min si calc ul nu face nimik(care sa consume resurse,procul e la 5-10%,in taskmanager nu e nimik in neregula)...deci care sa fie buba?
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Old 17-08-2005, 11:24   #3 (permalink)
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Ceva programe care au setat Always on top? Foloseşti dual monitor la placa ta video?
Eu deschideam uneori YM şi se ducea ca dobitocul pe monitorul 2 din cauza unei setări dobitoace de extens desktop de la nvidia. Mă rog poate o fi şi la ATi ceva asemănător.

Cu ALT+TAB face la fel?
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Old 17-08-2005, 12:02   #4 (permalink)
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Sunt 2 programe la care m-am gandit.
1. e Fraps care are optiunea de Always on top si al doilea e task managerul.
Fraps ul e debifat deci nu e Always on top si era inchis oricum.
Nu folosesc dual monitor.
Cu ALT+TAB se comporta la fel
Ma gandesc ca e de la task manager ca il setasem acum cateva zile sa nu mai fie always on top(il tineam de obicei deschis-acum imi dau seama ca ,cam(scuze de expresie) de atunci a inceput sa faca faza asta.Momentan e cum se vede in poza de mai jos am opera,2 ferestre de explorer,winamp si task managerul in taskbar..dar dc dau click pe oricare fereastra de win explorer nu "sare" peste opera pe cand dc dau click pe task manager,winamp( dc sau ym) alea "se conformeaza"-!!! cu toate ca in poza de la al doilea post de al meu se vede ca era winampul nu aparea pe ecran cand era selectat din taskbar...iar acum da...deci cum am zis..e total aleator..
Vroiam de acu cateva zile sa intreb cum sa fac taskmanagerul sa fie pornit dar sa fie afisat(doar langa ceas nu ca fereastra in taskbar) doar ca patratelul ala in care arata incercarea procului ;atunci "meshterind"pe la taskmanager e posibil sa fi cauzat problemele asta.
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Old 17-08-2005, 13:13   #5 (permalink)
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Sunt diverse prog ce arată încărcarea CPU şamd. Sunt mai uşor de configurat.
Văd că deja fol. speedfan
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Old 17-08-2005, 13:35   #6 (permalink)
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Si mie mi se intampla acelasi lucru destul de des, si singurele programe pe care le avem in comun sunt Windows, Motherboard Monitor si Winamp.
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Old 17-08-2005, 17:41   #7 (permalink)
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e clar, suntem 3 la mine se rezolva cu minimizarea ferestrelor buclucashe dupa un timp, a inceput sa nu mai ma deranjeaze chestia asta... e o diferentza doar de cateva click-uri....
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Old 17-08-2005, 18:15   #8 (permalink)
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what'da'....?
sa fie de vina vreun update de la microsoft (infim de mici sanse dupa parerea mea)
sa fie vreun addware(posibil)
virus/etc(iarasi posibil)
M-am mai uitat prin progr files/regcleaner ..procese din task manager..nimik suspect.
Still...
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Old 17-08-2005, 18:38   #9 (permalink)
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Cred ca este de la winamp, si la mine mai facea asa cateodata ...in ultima
vreme nu mai comenteaza mi-am pus 1GB DRR : ) (s-ar putea sa fie si de la ramm, dar mai intai incearca cu alte versiuni de la winamp si vezi cum se comporta)
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Old 18-08-2005, 14:34   #10 (permalink)
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Nu neapărat de la winamp.
allblack mă termină de fiecare dată cu Apollo , îi tot spune winamp killer

Dacă ai încerca un alt skin de win? Sau să-l setezi for best performance la visual style?

PS: alblack e de la Apollo să ştii, dă-l jos
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Old 18-08-2005, 16:19   #11 (permalink)
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vivio, mie imi face asha cu orice ash avea pornit, in ultimul timp nu mai face asha urat... de fapt nici nu ma deranjeaza, era un fapt pe care eu l-am obs...
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Old 18-08-2005, 17:03   #12 (permalink)
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Dar ai încercat cu un nou skin de win sau alte minuni?
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Old 18-08-2005, 17:44   #13 (permalink)
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Problema o am si cu winampul deschis si cu el inchis deci nu cred ca ar putea fi el problema(eu l-am dat expl ,dar de ex azi dc++ /ym 6(cu security patch ul ala instalat)faceau la fel.Plus ca winampul e versiunea 5.01 care o am instalata de cand a aparut(cel putin 4-5 luni...),skinul e cel default..style xp nu am si nici nu pun ca imi mananca ceva resurse(din cate am inteles)
Am facut aseara un memtest(doar asa de dragul artei-nu vad legatura,dar,ma rog..) si nu a dat nici o eroare dupa 2 "loop-uri"
Concluzia mea e ca e ceva in legatura cu ferestrele cum spunea si vivio"Ceva programe care au setat Always on top"
Nu pot sa imi dau seama care e probblema dar vb lui allblack-il las asa ca nu e greu sa dau cateva click uri..plus ca cand nu mi-o mai place cum se misca windowsu' intra in functiune Norton ghostul si scap si de asta.
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hadrian, incearca shi tu experientze extreme ca mine, ca am winu bagat de cam un an juma shi nu am nici cea mai mica prb cu el
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Ar mai fi o posibilitate: dragutul de win32jeefo, virusache care, in varianta primitiva, marea spatiul alocat in memorie al unei aplicatii suficient de mult cat sa le 'dea la usa' pe celelalte pentru cateva secunde cel putin. Nu m-am mai interesat de el de ceva vreme, insa m-ar mira sa nu fi avansat jegosul asta de virus in asa fel incat sa aloce dinamic un spatiu mai mare (de fapt din ce in ce mai mare). Iar BitDefender, Norton si inca alti cativa ativirusi de 'prestigiu' au fost ignorati cu scarba de acesata mica 'drojdie de bere' (ma refer la variantele din 2004). Googaleste dupa win32jeefo si e posibil sa recunosti simptomele.
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retzeaua mea e plina de jeefo calcul meu e singurul fara nenorocitul asta de virus. shi daca ar fi asha, inseamna ca ar face asta absolut tot timpul, shi ca nu ash avea niciodata RAM liber chestii care nu se intampla, ca nu a mai facut asha de ceva timp, shi RAM liber am tot timpul cam 50%
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E din cauza Win32-ului. Clar !
 
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Old 22-08-2005, 11:17   #18 (permalink)
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Ok..am luat tool ul anti-jeefo de pe bitdefender,am scanat tot hardul...nimik.Still trying to sort it out
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hadrian, cat de des tzi se intampla?
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Incearca EZ-Thrust. E singurul care m-a scapat de belea. (sper ca nu-i reclama ce fac acuma)
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