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Old 23-05-2006, 15:32   #1 (permalink)
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TCP/IP settings neacceptate de XP, working in win2000 - wtf?

Am nevoie sa schimb setarile de retea (IP, subnet mask, gateway, DNS server). Spre supriza mea "placuta" observ ca WinXPsp2 nu accepta setarile, cu mesajul "The combination of IP address and subnet mask is invalid. All of the bits in the host address portion of the IP address are set to 1. Please enter a valid combination of IP address and subnet mask." (atasament).
Aceleasi setari functioneaza fara probleme in 2ksp4. Like wtf?

Typo exclus.
Idei? Google nu m-a ajutat.
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Old 23-05-2006, 15:35   #2 (permalink)
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Zi-ne si noua ce combinatie IP/mask ai bagat. Eventual privat.

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Refa subnetul cu masca /30 in loc de /31, as zice eu.

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Old 23-05-2006, 16:13   #3 (permalink)
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Nu poti pune pe o placa de retea IP-ul de broadcast al retelei respective (asa cum e definit de subnet mask). Asta incerci tu sa faci.
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Old 23-05-2006, 16:20   #4 (permalink)
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Partea "frumoasa" e ca Windowsul 2000 te lasa sa faci asta.
 
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Old 23-05-2006, 16:28   #5 (permalink)
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Raptor, ce incerc eu sa fac e foarte simplu: copii de pe contractu' meu cu provideru' setarile. Daca le copii in Windows 2000, functioneaza, daca le copii in XP, nu. Ce vreau e la fel de simplu: sa functioneze si in XP.

Ivan cred ca a clarificat intrucit treaba (10x a lot m8), totusi posibilitatea unui typo intr-un contract tip duplicat in citeva sute de exemplare mi se pare greu de acceptat:
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Incearca cu 252 la coada, poate e un typo de la ei, nu de la tine.

/30 si /31 inseamna (foarte pe larg) ca primii 30 respectiv 31 de biti din IP sunt folositi ca adresa de retea. Raman 2, respectiv 1 bit pentru adresele hosturilor.
O retea functionala ar trebui sa aibe o adresa de retea (bitii pentru host sa fie 0), o adresa de broadcast (bitii de host sa fie 1) si restul de adrese intermediare, folosite ca IP-uri. Subnetul tau cu 254 la coada e in situatia ingrata de a avea doar adresa de network (cu ultimul bit 0) si adresa de broadcast (cu bitul 1). Probabil windowsul 2000 e mai permisiv si te lasa sa folosesti asa, dar strict tehnic nu e prea corect. Eu am 2k la munca, am pus IP-ul si maskul sa ma conving si nu s-a vaitat. De acolo si impresia mea ca "arata normal". Probabil XP-ul e mai citit si nu inghite orice
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Old 23-05-2006, 17:20   #6 (permalink)
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Eroarea afisata de XP e corecta. Motivul pentru care sute de mii de contracte au subnet mask-ul gresit este necunoscut (i blame Canada). De pe linia telefonica Astral nu pot apela linia hotline internet de la Astral - figure that instead.
 
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Old 23-05-2006, 17:43   #7 (permalink)
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Io n-am zis ca nu-i corecta. Totusi de ce / cum de functioneaza in 2000? Asta de bine ce am renuntat, cu moartea in suflet, la mult-pretuitul meu 2000sp4 - now i'm having second thoughts.

Anyway. Cu modificarea propusa de Ivan functioneaza (in sensul ca am si Internet prin conexiune). Ciudat, dar se pare ca unii netadmins chiar mai stiu cite ceva.
O sa solicit clarificari de la provider. Oricum, case closed, multumesc pentru ajutor.
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