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Old 24-05-2001, 02:36   #1 (permalink)
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Pana la urma care-i faza cu win98 si cu mai mult de 128RAM?

Lamuriti-ma si pe mine,ca nu stiu pe cine sa mai cred.
Foloseste win98 mai mult de 128RAM sau nu?
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Old 24-05-2001, 09:39   #2 (permalink)
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win98 singur categoric nu
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Old 24-05-2001, 14:53   #3 (permalink)
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Talking Dar tot foloseste swap-ul...

Eu am 512 MB ram si daca lasam dupa el, imi facea vreo 100 MB swap, din care folosea cam tot, desi avea vreo 460 MB ram liberi
Asa ca am pus swap permanent de 20 MB (din care nu foloseste nimic ) si tot mai sint peste 400 MB ram liberi
Cred ca datorita proastei utilizari a memoriei cam foloseste mai mult de 128 MB, mai ales daca rulezi mai multe aplicatii si le termini. Memoria eliberata apare ca ocupata...
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Old 24-05-2001, 23:54   #4 (permalink)
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ia incearca sa pui in sistem.ini asta


[vcache]
MinFileCache=7000
MaxFileCache=7000


si sa imi zici cat ram liber mai ai

si daca pui si asta ( desi nu mai stiu cum se scrie)
ConservativeFileSwapUsage=1

nu o sa mai ai swap decat daca mai ai nevoie de el

asa ca daca sti poti sa faci win sa iti cante in struna
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Old 25-05-2001, 09:06   #5 (permalink)
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La mine pe Win 98 cu 128Ram imi face swap uneori pana la 500MB, asta doar cand bag jocuri suparate, in general sta pe la 73MB. Ie normal?!?!
P.S. Nu merge faza cu limitarea marimi fisierului de swap, dupa un timp se blocheaza.
 
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Old 26-05-2001, 04:34   #6 (permalink)
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da-n win2000 cum e?
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Old 26-05-2001, 04:36   #7 (permalink)
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Mai intai incercati ce am spus mai sus
pana atunci discutiile sunt inutile
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Dar in WinMe, exista problema aceasta ?!?
 
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Old 26-05-2001, 19:17   #9 (permalink)
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da-n win2000 cum e?
In Win2000 NU merg chestiile lui oby one. Ca sa fixezi marimea swap-ului (a memorie virtuale) mergi in Control Panel->System->Advanced->Performance Options si acolo optimizarea trebuie sa iti fie pentru aplicatii, iar la virtual memory stabilesti marimea swap-ului. Marimea initiala se recomanda sa fie cam 1.5 x marimea RAM, dar daca ai de la 256 MB RAM in sus, 256 MB swap sint in cele mai multe cazuri destui. Marimea maxima e folosita doar in cazuri extreme.
 
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Old 27-05-2001, 04:30   #10 (permalink)
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Pai am 768Mb Ram.cam la cat ar trebui sa setez swapul in win2000?
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Old 27-05-2001, 06:22   #11 (permalink)
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Povestea ce swap-ul e destul de complicata. In Windows, intr-un mod destul de pervers, swapfile-ul este folosit si la alte lucruri decat strict extensie de memorie/swap space/etc).

Un exemplu bun sunt asa numitele 'memory mapped files' care sunt folosite de catre anumiti programatori (si mai perversi!) la o groaza de lucruri (zone de memorie comuna intre procese diferite de exemplu).
Un anume fel de a folosi aceste 'memory mapped files' necesita spatiu liber in swapfile, si asta e un motiv pentru care swap-ul creste destul de mult chiar si pe sisteme cu RAM mult.

De asemenea, daca fixati swap-ul la o anume marime, e posibil ca aplicatii care se folosesc de mecanisme d-astea sa nu mai functioneze corect (desi mie nu mi s-a intamplat pana acum, si pe 320 MB RAM/Windows 2000 am pus swap-ul fix la 478 MB (recomandat de Windows... puah!)).
 
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Old 27-05-2001, 10:41   #12 (permalink)
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BIBICU .... daca tot aia atata ram si win-gozul nu-l baga in seama de ce nu faci un ramdrive si sa il fixezi ca partitzie de swap ??? merge ?? ca io sincer nu am incercat inca... acu mi-a venit ideea !!!
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Old 27-05-2001, 18:32   #13 (permalink)
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Pai am 768Mb Ram.cam la cat ar trebui sa setez swapul in win2000?
Daca ai atita RAM si ai win2000 pro, poti sa pui linistit swap-ul pe 128 MB. Sau poti incerca chiar cu 64 MB. Iar mesajele de avertizare care iti vor apare (ca e prea mic etc.) pur si simplu le ignori, pentru ca va merge.

Daca ai win2000 (advanced) server, swap-ul este de 1.5xRAM, deci la tine de 1.2 GB. Si nu prea ai cum sa il faci mai mic Eu am incercat, dar la o reboot-are aparea tot atita (1.5xRAM) asa ca am renuntat.
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BIBICU .... daca tot aia atata ram si win-gozul nu-l baga in seama de ce nu faci un ramdrive si sa il fixezi ca partitzie de swap ??? merge ?? ca io sincer nu am incercat inca... acu mi-a venit ideea !!!
Nu am incredere in ramdrive. Si prefer sa utilizeze windows-ul memoria, atita cit ii trebuie. Daca ii trebuie mai multa si nu are de unde sa o ia? Poate ca la 1 GB RAM as incerca chestia asta. Ma mai gindesc, poate pun 1 GB memorie , mai ales ca e inca ieftina.
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Old 28-05-2001, 00:09   #15 (permalink)
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Am win2000 profesional.Am pus swap-ul la 128mb fata de 1Gb cat era inainte si merge mult mai prost.Cred ca imi pun la loc win98
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Old 28-05-2001, 00:14   #16 (permalink)
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Ceva nu e OK cu sistemul tau. La 768 MB RAM cit ai zis ca ai, nu ar trebui sa ai probleme. Si ce intelegi ca merge mult mai prost?
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Old 28-05-2001, 02:02   #17 (permalink)
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Pai dureaza cu vreo 20 sec mai mult pana porneste.
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Old 28-05-2001, 02:45   #18 (permalink)
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Numai asta e toata problema? Atunci nu ai probleme
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bah..........in general ruleaza totul mai incet...........
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Old 31-05-2001, 04:28   #20 (permalink)
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Am mai vazut pe unu cu 768MB de RAM care a dezactivat de tot swapul. Evident a crapat sistemul dupa 5 minute...
Windozu (cel putin 9x si NT4) stie ca anumite kestii trebuie musai sa le ia din swap si isi face swap special pentru asta... Am verificat personal treaba asta.
Cat despre dimensiune, am 128MB RAM si swap de 128MB si nu-mi amintesc sa-mi fi crapat windozu 98SE (instalat ultima data prin august anu' trecut si de atunci tot carpit si ingrijit) nici cand faceam niste kestii in Photoshop, aveam vreo 5 IE deschise, vreo 3 downloaduri in background, SpeedDisk rula in tray pe o alta partitie si scriam un cd, toate concomitent... Nimic neobisnuit...
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