Windows seven sau Windows 7 - Page 3

RicaNeaga · 12-11-2008, 00:10

Sper sa fie cum spui tu si nea Randall asta sa fie doar un baiat cu o ,,uitatura dusmanoasa" in ceea ce priveste microsoft.

Mie din ce materiale video am vazut mi se pare ca se misca si arata foarte bine noul so. Sper totusi sa nu se grabeasca cu lansarea (daca va fi cazul) si sa scoata un produs foarte bun ,,din prima"...

Korn · 12-11-2008, 13:35

Oricum e acelasi kernel cu Vista. Au bagat toolbar-ul ala minune (right) si inca 3 chestii si gata, nou sistem de operare. Bleah.

Doctor Bonez · 12-11-2008, 13:39

Cred ca strategia lor a fost sa tasteze in command prompt ren vistasp2.iso windows7.iso. Probabil se gandesc ca nu au cum sa schimbe conceptia oamenilor despre SO-ul actual si ca cel mai bine e sa ofere unul "nou". Plus ca, vorba 'ceea, SP-urile sunt distribuite gratuit.

RicaNeaga · 12-11-2008, 17:24

Windows 7 Benchmarks Part II: Some Second Opinions

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PC Pro echoes InfoWorld's sentiments to some extent, stating, "And the net effect? Surprisingly little. At this stage of development, over a year from release, Windows 7 looks almost identical to Vista."

They also offer up an interesting observation, which at first seems to be a contradiction. They state, "Yet Windows 7 does already offer one compelling advantage over Vista: it’s fast. Both our senior pontificators were struck by how nimble Windows 7 feels after you’re used to its predecessor. As Tim Danton writes, 'Vista was never this nippy. You press on an icon and it leaps into action. . . . I can’t remember using any new OS that was this quick.'"

They point out that the average user doesn't care about benchmarks -- they judge the package by the performance (the wrapping). Improving this is something PC Pro calls an "inspired move". It may be something Apple realized some time ago with OS X, but then again, Apple always grossly underperformed against Windows in key sectors like business software, security, gaming, and the most important metric of all -- price.

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PC World (carrying a ComputerWorld piece) offers a second perspective on this new OS which promises to add a zippier interface to Window's solid underlying layer. This publication again echoes the sentiments of the others, stating, "Microsoft would like you to believe that Windows 7 is going to be the next great desktop operating system. It's not."

However, another ComputerWorld reviewer, while agreeing with the repeated theme that base benchmarks are similar to Vista, says that this time Microsoft "gets it right". The author points out the dramatically improved (and less annoying) UAC feature. They also mention the improved networking support, and other significant improvements.

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First, many will question why these veteran computer publications are choosing to test a pre-beta, essentially alpha software, when it’s obvious that performance in the finished product may be dramatically different. While the merits of such tests are certainly debatable, the fact that the Windows 7 release date is likely less than a year away does give an understandable justification for such tests. Further, criticism of Windows Vista's pre-betas closely mirrored the criticism of the finished product, as can be seen by perusing past reviews.

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But how bad was Vista really? Honestly, Vista was a pretty good OS. The vast majority of DailyTech staff have at least one Vista machine in the house. While the OS certainly had its limitations, it brought dramatic improvements to the Windows GUIs and security. The OS's biggest problem, for the home user was something Microsoft can't be blamed for -- poor hardware partner support.

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Finally, and most importantly, something has to be done to allow the OS to run leaner and use less memory and system resources. Otherwise Windows 7 will likely miss the boat on adoption in two key sectors -- netbooks and the business community. And this would be truly a shame, since Windows 7 looks to offer a number of tempting features.

wantedhacker · 12-11-2008, 18:21

Eu unul sper sa respecte macar promisiunea ca vor face astfel incat sa mearga si aplicatii mai vechi sa ruleze pe noul windows, aplicatii care rulau inainte decat pe 98, ar fi culmea sa faca un gen de wine pentru windows care sa emuleze aplicatiile de linux

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PigBrother · 12-11-2008, 18:33

Cui ii mai pasa de aplicatiile pentru Windows 98?

wantedhacker · 12-11-2008, 18:48

Creca mai ai si tu prin biblioteca jocuri vechi care totusi inca sunt distractive. La mine este Speed Busters, singurul joc cumparat original si care inca imi place

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PigBrother · 12-11-2008, 18:57

Eh, si eu am nostalgii din era DOS, dar daca le-ai rejuca ti-ai da seama ca sunt depasite si ca trebuie sa ramana frumoase doar in amintiri.
Oricum, ma indoiesc sincer ca ii va mai pasa cuiva in 2008 de compatibilitatea cu aplicatiile pe 16 sau 8 biti de acum 10-20 de ani.

SteakHunter · 12-11-2008, 20:22

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Originally Posted by wantedhacker

Creca mai ai si tu prin biblioteca jocuri vechi care totusi inca sunt distractive. La mine este Speed Busters, singurul joc cumparat original si care inca imi place

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DOSBox, a x86 emulator with DOS

In rest, si cred ca o zic a 20-a oara, PG2 mi-a mers corect doar pe 95, 98 si... Vista.

Ike · 12-11-2008, 20:50

Eu am vazut cu proprii ochi software de contabilitate pentru windows 98 folosit intens destul de recent, deci nu e vorba doar de jocuri. Si nu vreau sa stiu cat mai costa un programator in prezent.

wirespot · 12-11-2008, 23:08

Ăia de FoxPro sînt ieftini.

aurasdoom · 12-11-2008, 23:23

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Originally Posted by wantedhacker

Eu unul sper sa respecte macar promisiunea ca vor face astfel incat sa mearga si aplicatii mai vechi sa ruleze pe noul windows, aplicatii care rulau inainte decat pe 98, ar fi culmea sa faca un gen de wine pentru windows care sa emuleze aplicatiile de linux

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Adica Cygwin Information and Installation ?

wantedhacker · 13-11-2008, 06:17

Una este ce fac organizatiile separate si ce face microsoft insine, care are macheta windows-ului si stie sa integreze mai bine componentele.

Jigodie · 13-12-2008, 01:02

Windows 7: Windows 7 Benchmark Results "Very Promising"

Jigodie · 14-12-2008, 17:59

i-am dat si eu o sansa Windowsului 7.
sunt impresionat, desi in versiune BETA se misca super bine pt un produs M$.
Arata bine, e peste Vista si consuma mai putine resurse. Iar testele o confirma pe zi ce trece: http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/12/14...-tested-liked/
D-abia astept lansarea.
S-ar putea sa fie primul Windows pe care dau banii (cu exceptia celui la pachet cu laptop-ul

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Micro · 16-12-2008, 13:09

Cate procese ai in memorie dupa instalare?

~~Soulstorm~~ · 17-12-2008, 10:11

Ce conteaza cate procese ai? Poti sa ai si 1000 cat timp os-ul se misca bine.
Anyway, am instalat si eu o versiune de pe retele p2p si am ramas socat - 340MB de memorie consuma dupa boot. Iar programele merg cam toate perfect, inclusiv programe noi cum ar fi suita CS4 de la Adobe.

Si uite asa se duc pe apa sambetei visele fanboy-lor Apple de a deveni platforma dominanta. Thank god.

YouTube - Windows 7 x64 GPU Acceleration Test

La minutul 2.90 deja tipul porneste pe langa cele 3 videoclipuri care ruleaza perfect, pe langa cele nu-stiu-cate programe ramase in fundal pe taskbar, porneste si Crysis, care culmea, ruleaza perfect. Toate pe un Dual-Core + 4GB + HD3870.
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http://windows7news.com/2008/12/16/w...ted-this-week/
Se pare ca versiunea Beta va aparea saptamana asta pentru beta-testerii parteneri cu MS. Deci va aparea cel mai probabil si pe retelele P2P.

!nsomnia · 17-12-2008, 11:20

acasa am instalata varianta pre-beta de vreo 3-4 saptamini si merge perfect, la ce mai trebuie si beta?

oldshooterman · 17-12-2008, 12:53

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Originally Posted by Soulstorm

Ce conteaza cate procese ai? Poti sa ai si 1000 cat timp os-ul se misca bine.
Anyway, am instalat si eu o versiune de pe retele p2p si am ramas socat - 340MB de memorie consuma dupa boot. Iar programele merg cam toate perfect, inclusiv programe noi cum ar fi suita CS4 de la Adobe.

http://windows7news.com/2008/12/16/w...ted-this-week/
Se pare ca versiunea Beta va aparea saptamana asta pentru beta-testerii parteneri cu MS. Deci va aparea cel mai probabil si pe retelele P2P.

Schimbari serioase de opinie la mai putin de 3 luni..."...Ma rog, lasand asta la o parte, si Vista trebuie lansat in 2005-2006 si a ajuns pe rafturi in 2007, asa ca o sa apara Windows Seven pe piata prin 2010-2011 fara probleme. Iar acel screenshot il fac si eu in Photoshop, nu e nici o problema." (Soulstorm, 29.09.08)

DJ Flavio · 24-12-2008, 23:34

Am instalat si eu pentru teste o versiune pre-beta. Din motive necunoscute, a inghetat de 3 ori (pana acum); nu stiu cat de relevant este, poate fi de la driveri (pentru anumite componente nu mi-au mers unii, incercari multiple, etc).

Pareri generale:
- porneste mai repede ca xp;
- in idle foloseste 430Mb din memorie (2gb disponibili), in comparatie cu xp care foloseste 740Mb; in astia 430Mb intra si sidebar cu gagets, schimbarea backgroundului din cand in cand (inca nu gasesc setarea aia), plus efecte vizuale tip transparenta, etc.
- destule incompatibilitati la driveri (wireless, asus xonar, gf 9600gt); cu placa video m-am chinuit cel mai mult, o instalase default ca 9600gt dar dadea tot felul de erori in dxdiag; a mers in cele din urma cu un driver de pe nvidia.com (mai vechi, la cel mai nou tot mai dadea niste bazaconii).
- nici o eroare fatala pana acum (gen bsod)
- Control Panel ciudat, au aparut o gramada de obiecte, unele utile (direct Device Manager), altele nu.
- Start Menu mai ingenios din punctul meu de vedere (nu se mai deschid 1001 de popup-uri), dar cred ca tine de obisnuinta (de la windows 95 incoace acelasi sistem, acum altceva).
- am incercat uxtheme patcher si nu merge ca la Vista, mai exact nu merge deloc.

Cam atat, pentru moment.
Sistemul de test este Rig 1.