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Old 27-02-2002, 06:48   #1 (permalink)
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Angry Illegal operation in WIN (problema mare)

Illegal operation in WIN (problema mare)
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Clipomatic (si inca f. multe alte programe), mai ales la multitasking -aprox. 3 programe deschise deodata- imi dau mesajul:
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This program has performed an illegal operation Close and will be shut down.
If the problem persists, contact the program vendor.

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CLIPOMATIC caused an invalid page fault in
module KERNEL32.DLL at 017f:bff7a138.

Registers:
EAX=01662064 CS=017f EIP=bff7a138 EFLGS=00010206
EBX=00760e10 SS=0187 ESP=0064fc88 EBP=0064fcbc
ECX=2065736c DS=0187 ESI=0076014c FS=26a7
EDX=0066003f ES=0187 EDI=01662d28 GS=0000

Bytes at CS:EIP:
89 51 08 8b 53 08 8b 43 04 89 42 04 8d 93 0b 10

Stack dump:
0064fcbc 0076014c 00660000 00760e1a bff7b31d
00660000 0076014c 00000cc4 00000200 0000000c
00760150 00760e1a 0076014c 00770570 004055a9
00660000
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De la ce oare sa fie problema ?! (se repeta des, cu toate ca am formatat de 1 saptamina). E curios ca se intimpla la aprox. aceeasi adresa pt. aproape orice dll, mai ales KERNEL32.DLL (017f:bff7a138). Problema asta o am de cind mi-am luat calculatorul AMD Thunderbird 1,2 Ghz 128 RAM, GEFORCE 2 MX100/200, dar placa de baza mai slabuta-LUCKY STAR Clipomatic (si inca f. multe alte programe), mai ales la multitasking -aprox. 3 programe deschise deodata- imi dau mesajul:
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Old 27-02-2002, 08:20   #2 (permalink)
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posibil memoria nasoala, incearca sa o schimbi si vezi cum se manifesta.
 
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Old 27-02-2002, 08:25   #3 (permalink)
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Hmm...
Ai incercat cu alta memorie?
Procul la ce temperatura lucreaza?
De driverele de la placa de baza nu mai intreb, banuiesc ca sunt ok...
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Old 27-02-2002, 10:30   #4 (permalink)
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sigur e de la ram sau de la proc
Incearca sa imprumuti de la cineva niste ram
tu iti ti procul ov ?
CE temp are ?
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Old 27-02-2002, 22:40   #5 (permalink)
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Sau in caza ca nu ai de unde imprumuta memorie, incearca sa folosesti un program care iti goleste memoria, gen RamBooster (parca asa i zice)
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Old 28-02-2002, 00:05   #6 (permalink)
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da, si eu tot de la memorie cred ca e. fa si tu un schimb cu vreun prieten si vezi daca merge cu aia... oricum daca vrei sa skimbi componente, sa nu faci 2 mutari deodata. adica de ex sa pui alta memorie si alt proc in loc in acelasi timp. fiecare la randul sau. nu e memoria? okay.. o bagi p'ata veche la loc, schimb procu... si tot asa.. altfel te incurci...
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Old 28-02-2002, 01:52   #7 (permalink)
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Eu nu as da vina pe ram De obicei chestii d-astea se intampla din cauza incompatibilitatii intre dll-uri (unele mai vechi, altele mai noi...). Am patit si eu aceeasi chestie cand aveam compul vechi, si s-a dovedit a fi o problema pur software.
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Old 02-03-2002, 02:37   #8 (permalink)
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Angry Illegal operation in WIN (problema mare)

Temperatura Procesorului este intre 32 si 37 grade (am cooler cu Titanium). Cind lucrez multitasking, aproape toate programele care ruleaza (aprox.3-4) isi incetinesc executia normala, pina aproape de blocare (apar multe ecrane albastre).
 
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Old 02-03-2002, 11:10   #9 (permalink)
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rune ai schimbat memoria si iti face la fel? imprumuta de la un prieten o memorie si vezi cum e.
poate sa mai fie si ceva software, drivere la placa de baza, video, etc.
 
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Old 02-03-2002, 16:58   #10 (permalink)
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da tu ce win ai?
daca mem. nu e devina......schimba placa de baza si sa vezi minune.
 
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Old 02-03-2002, 19:26   #11 (permalink)
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Angry

Am Win 98 SE. Cred ca placa de baza e mai slabuta (LUCKY STAR KTA 266 - 686x). Ce Upgrade imi recomandati ?
 
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Old 04-03-2002, 02:42   #12 (permalink)
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De ce nu incerci sa reinstalezi windozele?
Poate s-a corupt vreun fisier system.
 
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Old 05-03-2002, 23:57   #13 (permalink)
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Angry Illegal operation in WIN (problema mare)

Problema asta o am aproape permanent, chiar si la 1-2 saptamini de la formatare (cel mai mult la multitasking; 2-4 programe deschise deodata).
 
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Old 06-03-2002, 15:50   #14 (permalink)
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tu esti turc ? iti zic 10 oameni sa incerci sa schimbi memoria ram , schimb-o !!!
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Old 07-03-2002, 00:08   #15 (permalink)
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Dar ce mai asa fac turcii ??
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Old 07-03-2002, 00:41   #16 (permalink)
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Intrebare de rutina ... tu sti sa iti instalezi , cum trebuie windowsul? Asta include si ordinea in care pui driverele pentru celelate componente!
Incearca asha... intai instalezi win98 , apoi pui driverele in ordinea asta!!!!! , placa de baza, placa video, DIRECT X , si apoi celelalte!
 
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Angry Illegal operation in WIN (problema mare)

Acum am facut rost de 128 MB RAM PC 133, am instalat (upgradat peste Win'98 SE) Win Millenium si voi testa aprox. 1 saptamina sistemul sa vad cum se comporta, daca este de la RAM sau nu.
 
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Old 08-03-2002, 22:55   #18 (permalink)
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Angry Am patit si eu problema asta!

Asa imi aparea si mie zilele astea, la programele din windows!!!
Pana cand am aflat ca aveam un virus "w95 spaces" si pe care l-am scos cu un jag de antivirus de DOS!!!
Asa ca aveti grija ce misuna prin sitemele voastre!
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Old 08-03-2002, 23:51   #19 (permalink)
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"jag"-ul ala de antivirus se numea cumva F-prot?
 
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Old 10-03-2002, 02:22   #20 (permalink)
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da imi place ca noi ne chinuim sa ii dam sugestii alea alea.. si el doar 2 posturi poseda... sau ceva de genu' asta
mama draga, fii si tu mai bagacios... sau nu iti merge compu si de asta nu mai intri?
oricum cu memoria de care zici ca ai facut rost sper sa iti mearga!
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