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12-03-2003, 00:44
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| muff diver  Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: Bucuresti |
La mine e exact invers. Sub 98 defragmentarea unei partitii de 40 GB dureaza cam o noapte, iar sub XP mult, mult mai putin, ceva gen 2 ore cred. E adevarat insa, sub XP folosesc NTFS.
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13-03-2003, 01:22
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| Master Browser ![[mx]n0b0dy's Avatar](http://forum.computergames.ro/customavatars/avatar1264_0.gif){kind=avatar} Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: betaplace |
Sub XP cel mai bun program de defrag este chiar cel al XP-ului. Asta bineinteles si pe partitie NTFS ca doar asa se poarta... forget about FAT32...
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13-03-2003, 10:38
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| Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: bucuresti |
n0b0dy, sa porti tu NTFS, si cand pica ceva la hard, sa te puna dreaq sa vrei recuperare de date de pe el....  Zyklon5, defragmenteaza-l de pe alt sistem !
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13-03-2003, 12:08
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| Master Browser Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: betaplace |
Cain, sa luam de ex cazul cel mai nefericit in care un hard pe care sunt date e afectat fizic de bad-uri si nici macar nu mai booteaza. Ca sa nu ai dureri de cap incerci sa pui hardu pe alt sistem. Singura diferenta este ca daca partitia (partitiile) sunt NTFS va trebui sa-l pui pe un sistem cu 2k/xp. In continuare totul merge la fel ori ca ai fat32 ori ca ai ntfs. Deci aceeasi bataie de cap. In plus utilitarul chkdsk din 2000/xp e super puternic in recovery console. Caz concret: hard disk SCSI de 2 giga destul de vechi, o singura partitie , windows 2000, evident documente pe el. La un moment dat nu mai booteaza, se opreste undeva pe la inceput cu zgomote ciudate de la hard. S-a dovedit ca erau baduri la inceputul hardului si erau corupte fisierele sistem necesare pt boot. Problema este ca alt sistem cu SCSI nu prea era prin preajma asa ca hardu nu avea unde sa fie mutat. S-a intrat cu cd-ul bootabil de 2k in recovery console, chkdsk, acesta a identificat bad-urile si fisierele sistem corupte prin comparare cu cele de pe CD, le-a inlocuit punand-le in alt loc pe hard, sistemul a bootat perfect, au fost copiate prin retea documentele si GATA. Daca era hard SCSI dar cu partitie de FAT32 si n-aveai unde sa-l pui cum faceai? Nu cred ca te putea ajuta scandisk sau disk doctor. Nu zic ca nu se poate dar pe mine chkdsk m-a ajutat enorm si nu numai in aceasta situatie. In fine ideea e ca s-a rezolvat rapid si elegant si fara alte utilitare suplimentare.
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13-03-2003, 15:26
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| Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: bucuresti |
Aproape ca ti-as da dreptate, daca nu m-as fi lovit cu adevarat de probleme, nu ca tine... Adica recuperare date dupa o partitie reformatata, sau dupa un hdd cu zona de root busita, unde nu mai stii care si ce partii are, partitiile ntfs, si recuperam datele cu fix curu, pt ca 99 % din softurile existente (free sau warez, nu mi-e rusine sa o spun) nu recunosc ntfs... . Rezulta ca stai nene si sapa pe net pana dau de unu care-mi emaileaza si mie programul respectiv, unu ala care lucra la o firma care-si permitea sa cumpere asemenea softuri...  de fapt sa cumpere softuri si atit...
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14-03-2003, 10:29
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| Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: bucuresti |
Batrine, daca sistemul tau permite, mai instaleaza un SO, win98 de exemplu, si defragmentezi sub el; plus ca al doilea sistem poate fi bun la mai multe lucruri... daca, bineinteles, mai faci si altceva acasa in afara de jocuri  Si totusi s-ar putea sa fie ceva utilitare pe net pt defragmentarea sistemelor NT .... daca gasesc ceva, iti zic.
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14-03-2003, 18:21
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| Registered User  Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: A nearby parallel Universe... | 
Nu te mai chinui... Structura NTFS-ului ca sistem de fisiere in sine face defragmentarea aproape inutila... Dar daca tii neaparat sa defragmentezi o partitie NTFS, incearca O&O Defrag.
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15-03-2003, 00:22
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| Former nick: xes  Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Wonderland |
incerca un VoptXP...
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15-03-2003, 00:49
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| Registered User Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: A nearby parallel Universe... |
Despre NTFS, asa e, cum spun eu. Nu am timp sa explic acum de ce, asa ca pana revin cu un post va trebui sa ma crezi pe cuvant. Si pana la urma ai incercat programul de care ti-am zis? Nu face numai defragmentare de NTFS...
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20-03-2003, 02:54
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| Administrator  Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Moldova lui Fane Babanu:) |
pentru NTFS eu folosesc PerfectDisk2000 Se gaseste aici: http://www.raxco.com/products/
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20-03-2003, 22:22
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| Paranoid Android  Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Bucuresti,Romania |
Eu...ca AIWA, cu mentiunea ca am testat si restul (O&O,Diskkeeper etc) dar PerfectDisk mi-a mers cel mai bine...
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20-03-2003, 23:53
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| Join Date: Dec 2000 |
O&O am mai incercat la fel ca si Disk Keeper dar nu am observat nimic exceptional. Slider it's my way. VoptXP pare intradevar foarte interesant pentru ca este rapid dar e mai neplacut ca nu stie sa intrerupa procesul si trebuie sa astepti sa termine de mutat fisierul .. destul de nasol cand ai doar Iso-uri pe HDD ... sunt curios care ar fi diferentele intre metodele de defragmentare din diferite softuri. Cat de safe o fi VoptXP asta ?
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21-03-2003, 14:42
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| Former nick: xes Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Wonderland |
eu nu am avut probleme cu el... si un iso... cat poate sa dureze... in cel mai rau caz 1 minut
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21-03-2003, 18:05
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| Registered User Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: A nearby parallel Universe... |
Deja ma enervez!... http://searchwin2000.techtarget.com/...212675,00.html Poate dupa ce citesti ce scrie la linkul de mai sus o sa intelegi de ce NTFS nu prea are nevoie de defragmentare. Nu am spus ca nu e necesara, am spus ca nu e ABSOLUT necesara si ca nu aduce sporuri mari de performanta.
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