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Old 31-03-2009, 21:59   #2001 (permalink)
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Marirea si decaderea sistemului bancar american

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In 1999, in topul mondial al bancilor calculat dupa valoarea de piata (capitalizare), se aflau 11 banci americane. Pe primele doua locuri se situau Citigroup si Bank of America in timp ce nici o banca chineza nu se afla printre primele 20. Topul pe 1999 mai jos (click pentru marire)
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Dupa 10 de ani, capitalismul se pare ca a capitulat in fata comunismului cu fata umana din moment ce in 2009, topul mondial al bancilor este dominat de China cu 5 banci dintre care 3 se situeaza pe primele trei locuri. Citi si Bank of America au devenit istorie iar din cele 11 banci americane care faceau parte din top in urma cu 10 de ani, au mai ramas 3. In plus, 13 din cele 20 aflate in topul initial au primit ajutoare de stat in valoare totala de 310 miliarde dolari.

Mai jos topul pe 2009.
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China and Argentina in $10bn deal
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China and Argentina have made a tentative agreement to swap $10bn (?7bn) worth of their currencies.

The move, which allows both countries to bypass the US dollar, makes it easier for Argentine businesses to buy Chinese imports directly in yuan.

It also gives Argentina hard cash at a time when its finances have been hurt by the global financial crisis.

The deal comes after China suggested that the world should create a new reserve currency to replace the dollar.

The swap is being seen as a sign of China's ambitions in South America.
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Inteligenta remarca..Dupa 10 de ani, capitalismul se pare ca a capitulat in fata comunismului cu fata umana.... ,dupa care as continua...in cursa pentru atingerea maximului capitalist, adica acumularea de capital. Sunt atat de dusi incat nu realizeaza diferentele dintre un sistem politic si economic. Diferentele intre China si America nu constau decat in faptul ca unii au un partid unic, altii pluripartitism. Relatiile economice, in schimb, sunt pur capitaliste. A se vedea China anilor 60-70-80 si China de dupa 90.
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I have heard a joke from a Chinese.

In 1949, socialism saved China. (communist teaching in 1950s)
In 1989, China saved socialism.
In 2009, China saved capitalism.
 
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I am Romanian born in Romania and live in Romania but the Chinese people are superior to Romanian people that its the truth and i have many proves . Even actors are better exampl Gong Li or Fan BingBing . Pentru astia care faceti pe destepti ca cunoasteti China aici pe forum voi cunoasteti un CACAT habar nu aveti nimic de China si dati din gura ca prosti
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Dear Ablium u are a very smart woman if one Chinese woman from 100 its like you the China will controle the world .

Ablium i am impresioned about you , u know so many things , i would like to be your friend because i am interesed in China and i want to learn Chinese language already i learnt some things and also i want to tell you some things about Chinese people who live in Romania and also about my experience with 2 Chinese women because i need some advices from a smart woman like you . My yahoomessenger its dra_adi@yahoo.com , my myspace its MySpace.com - www.myspace.com/460636691 and my mail adress its sampion_2006@yahoo.com .

I have many interesting things to tell you and also i need informations from you .

If you have time and you think we can be friends we can , if u are busy u are busy no problem .

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Btw : The Chinese people are not can ku how its said they are good people .

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Mane, mi-au dat lacrimile, n-am mai citit un post atat de sincer (si de prost) de mult.
 
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China is a rich country , i had a Chinese girlfriend .
I am Romanian born in Romania and live in Romania but the Chinese people are superior to Romanian people that its the truth and i have many proves . Even actors are better exampl Gong Li or Fan BingBing . Pentru astia care faceti pe destepti ca cunoasteti China aici pe forum voi cunoasteti un CACAT habar nu aveti nimic de China si dati din gura ca prosti
You appeared very sincere, but your understanding of China was incorrect and incomplete. China is still a relatively poor country at per capita level and many Chinese are still living in poverty although China has accumulated quite a lot of wealth in recent years as a country. Chinese people are not superior to Romanian people. There are good and bad people in China just as in any other countries. There are some great movie directors and actors in Romania too. Two years ago, a Romanian movie even won top prize at Cannes.
 
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In the past three years, I have written many posts in this thread. While I was simply telling the truth, many accused me making propaganda for countless times. Today, I read an old article by Thomas Friedman, the renowned New York Times columnist. It seems that he is making bigger "propaganda" for China in a more articulate way than I did.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/27/op...dman.html?_r=1

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A Biblical Seven Years

By Thomas L. Friedman

After attending the spectacular closing ceremony at the Beijing Olympics and feeling the vibrations from hundreds of Chinese drummers pulsating in my own chest, I was tempted to conclude two things: “Holy mackerel, the energy coming out of this country is unrivaled.” And, two: “We are so cooked. Start teaching your kids Mandarin.”

However, I’ve learned over the years not to over-interpret any two-week event. Olympics don’t change history. They are mere snapshots — a country posing in its Sunday bests for all the world too see. But, as snapshots go, the one China presented through the Olympics was enormously powerful — and it’s one that Americans need to reflect upon this election season.

China did not build the magnificent $43 billion infrastructure for these games, or put on the unparalleled opening and closing ceremonies, simply by the dumb luck of discovering oil. No, it was the culmination of seven years of national investment, planning, concentrated state power, national mobilization and hard work.

Seven years ... Seven years ... Oh, that’s right. China was awarded these Olympic Games on July 13, 2001 — just two months before 9/11.

As I sat in my seat at the Bird’s Nest, watching thousands of Chinese dancers, drummers, singers and acrobats on stilts perform their magic at the closing ceremony, I couldn’t help but reflect on how China and America have spent the last seven years: China has been preparing for the Olympics; we’ve been preparing for Al Qaeda. They’ve been building better stadiums, subways, airports, roads and parks. And we’ve been building better metal detectors, armored Humvees and pilotless drones.

The difference is starting to show. Just compare arriving at La Guardia’s dumpy terminal in New York City and driving through the crumbling infrastructure into Manhattan with arriving at Shanghai’s sleek airport and taking the 220-mile-per-hour magnetic levitation train, which uses electromagnetic propulsion instead of steel wheels and tracks, to get to town in a blink.

Then ask yourself: Who is living in the third world country?

Yes, if you drive an hour out of Beijing, you meet the vast dirt-poor third world of China. But here’s what’s new: The rich parts of China, the modern parts of Beijing or Shanghai or Dalian, are now more state of the art than rich America. The buildings are architecturally more interesting, the wireless networks more sophisticated, the roads and trains more efficient and nicer. And, I repeat, they did not get all this by discovering oil. They got it by digging inside themselves.

I realize the differences: We were attacked on 9/11; they were not. We have real enemies; theirs are small and mostly domestic. We had to respond to 9/11 at least by eliminating the Al Qaeda base in Afghanistan and investing in tighter homeland security. They could avoid foreign entanglements. Trying to build democracy in Iraq, though, which I supported, was a war of choice and is unlikely to ever produce anything equal to its huge price tag.

But the first rule of holes is that when you’re in one, stop digging. When you see how much modern infrastructure has been built in China since 2001, under the banner of the Olympics, and you see how much infrastructure has been postponed in America since 2001, under the banner of the war on terrorism, it’s clear that the next seven years need to be devoted to nation-building in America.

We need to finish our business in Iraq and Afghanistan as quickly as possible, which is why it is a travesty that the Iraqi Parliament has gone on vacation while 130,000 U.S. troops are standing guard. We can no longer afford to postpone our nation-building while Iraqis squabble over whether to do theirs.

A lot of people are now advising Barack Obama to get dirty with John McCain. Sure, fight fire with fire. That’s necessary, but it is not sufficient.

Obama got this far because many voters projected onto him that he could be the leader of an American renewal. They know we need nation-building at home now — not in Iraq, not in Afghanistan, not in Georgia, but in America. Obama cannot lose that theme.

He cannot let Republicans make this election about who is tough enough to stand up to Russia or bin Laden. It has to be about who is strong enough, focused enough, creative enough and unifying enough to get Americans to rebuild America. The next president can have all the foreign affairs experience in the world, but it will be useless, utterly useless, if we, as a country, are weak.

Obama is more right than he knows when he proclaims that this is “our” moment, this is “our” time. But it is our time to get back to work on the only home we have, our time for nation-building in America. I never want to tell my girls — and I’m sure Obama feels the same about his — that they have to go to China to see the future.
 
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Today, I read an old article by Thomas Friedman, the renowned New York Times columnist..

The first rule of holes is that when you’re in one, stop digging.
That's a very good point! I guess you could say that my propaganda is pretty efficient, especially now when Mr. Thomas Friedman is starting to use "my type of arguments" (:P) or when even my hardests frienemies (I mean you but it's true for others also :P) are doing some research about my posts.

My youtube videos are pretty good, isn't it? ironic After all, you could find some interesting stuff (let's say - carbon credits at China price- first video min 1:20, and so on) that you could use in your debate, right?

I am glad that you found this and I hope that you will continue to go in this direction. All I can say is that "The future is GREAT"..

And good luck.

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2. Daca ti se pare ca intelegi macar un sfert din ce am spus te rog sa-mi explici cum vezi paradoxul intre liberalismul clasic de tip free market pe care vreau sa-l aplic pietei petrolului (utopie evident - la fel ca in cazul mainii de lucru ieftine) si reglementarile privind poluarea sau emisiile de carbon ce se vor aplica ABSOLUT ORICAREI TARI foarte curand. Prin mii de taxe. Sau in special Chinei (si din cauza ei). Spun asta pentru ca nu te cred in stare sa intelegi simetriile de genul asta - dar mai ales, pentru ca eu cred sincer ca unele lucruri sunt prea complexe pentru a fi lasate pe seama oricui si prin urmare vreau sa vad daca poti sa te ridici la nivelul acestei discutii. Exact de asta am spus sa fiti atenti la stirile din urmatoarea perioada, de la Printul Charles si Obama si pana la conflicte deschise (poate chiar cu arme) pe tema acestui subiect. Daca viata va demonstra ca am dreptate nu stiu pe unde veti mai scoate camasa, eu unul sa fiu in locul vostru as intra in pamant de rusine daca se va dovedi a fi adevarat.

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The difference between China and many other countries now is that China puts people to work and solve problems while many other countries just talk and argue too much.

China does have serious polution problem now, but China also has the world largest green program.

China is already the world largest solar cell producer.
China produces 80% of world solar water heaters.
China produces more than 80% of energy-saving light bulbs.
China will be the world largest wind turbine producer this year.
China plants more new trees than any other countries in recent years.
China adopts new thermal power generation technology faster than any other countries.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/11/wo...ia/11coal.html

China will soon emerge as the world largest electric car producer.

China's Electric Car Goal - Video Library - The New York Times

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07-02-2009.. I was saying that Chinese Guverment will invest in European wind market (first) and then worldwide 500 Bil $. This will be only 10 % of the wind installed capacity in the world, from 2009 to 2020, (advanced scenario).


Like I said, China will invest 500 Bil $ and pretty quick. 220 bil $ already on the way in 2009 and 2010. I guess the problem (or solution) is much bigger than estimated..


Btw: stop making so much propaganda about China leading the way (in electric cars - Ellica was years ahead of everyone) and please continue with Carbon Credits stuff. It's much more fun.


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Of course. But please tell me WHY.

This is all have to do with what I've just said (carbon credits), but you refuse to go in that direction. It's ok anyway that at least you admitted China has a problem with polution. Well, it will be interesting to see where this is going, what will be the price for your country to resolve this big and costly problem (no wonder they are spending so much already)..



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Without searching internet, I don't think there will be 500 billion dollars invested in wind turbine. You don't have an idea of how much 500 billion dollars mean [..] The whole US financial rescue plan is only 700 billion dollars.


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China’s stimulus package invests $12.6 million every hour in greening its economy, for a total of $220 billion, twice as much as similar U.S. investments.
Uuu..


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China puts people to work and solve problems while many other countries just talk and argue too much.
You are right: http://www.hotnews.ro/stiri-international-5736255-video-imagini-socante-chinez-care-voia-sinucida-aruncandu-pod-fost-aruncat-gol-trecator-exasperat-faptul-traficul-era-intrerupt-ore-intregi.htm "

"L-am impins din cauza ca eu sunt de parere ca oamenii precum Chen sunt foarte egoisti",

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Mai nou cateva banci din China intra puternic pe piata de energie a Europei. Vor sa bage 500 de miliarde dolari in proiecte eoliene, oriunde, inclusiv la noi (probabil e doar inceputul, probabil vor sa copie modelul Vestas V90).
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Uuu..
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Uu..

220 in economia LOR, 500 miliarde in economia noastra.

Europeana. A noastra. In fine.

Mai bine intreaba-te de unde stiam..

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Nu ne intereseaza de unde stiai, topicul este despre China, nu despre realizarile, predictiile si in general geniul tau neinteles.

Offtopic: semnatura ta devine jenanta. Scoate macar partea cu good bye-ul.
 
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Btw: stop making so much propaganda about China leading the way (in electric cars - Ellica was years ahead of everyone)
You really have some mental problem. How can you compare commercially volume produced cars to a concept car of the university research?
 
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"Cheap is not the best".. please don;t forget that. Just because you build a city with a factory in this purpose doesn't mean that you "lead" in this domain. Or this "my car is the best" - so it should be mass produced (because they are cheap). You repeat the same error as before - the world does not support enought cheap cars for everyone. There are limited resources, even taking account for the unexplored Africa "you try to conquer". Do you want to start another crisis and transform the world in a giant trash can again?


Please look at min 2:30 and tell me what the chinese engineers are saying. Their looks express almoust all it is to say about this subject but i want to know more details..




Ivan: inca astept un raspuns. Sfertul academic, cum ar veni.

Iar daca tu crezi ca nu are legatura cu subiectul, please think again. 12,6 milioane de dolari PE ORA, (twice as much as similar U.S. investments) vor lasa urme traume foarte adanci peste tot, inclusiv la noi. Zice bine ablium ca problemele sunt aproape de "mental", poate de asta nici nu ma supar.

Se vor schimba extrem de multe intr-un timp extrem de scurt insa cel mai interesant e DE CE se intampla asa ceva. Explicatia mea cred ca o stii insa ce conteaza, doar nu merit sa fiu luat in serios. Nu intereseaza pe nimeni..

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Please look at min 2:30 and tell me what the chinese engineers are saying. Their looks express almoust all it is to say about this subject but i want to know more details..

I want to tell you that you know nothing about industry and business.

The key of electric cars is the battery technology and its cost. China's BYD has the battery technology and manufacturing capacity. It currently produces 30% of world lithium ion batteries for cell phones. That is why the lengendary investor and the world richest man Warren Buffet invested in BYD auto, but even Japanese auto makers did not fund Eliica.
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vaaai, nici in china nu e traficu` de la noi(

Secretul lor...Nu exista reguli de trafic.Mai vezi cate un stop,o tabla ce anunta ca urmeaza o trecere de pietoni sau sens giratoriu.
Nu exista sens unic,nu exista parcarea interzisa,nu exista interzis sau permis doar acelor vehicule.Nu este cedeaza trecerea,sau drum cu prioritate(exceptia de regula e centrul fiecarui oras,cam 1-2Km circular,depinzand de ce oras vorbim)
E haos insa e haos controlat.

In primele zile a fost teroare sa ma obisnuiesc cu ideea ca pe trotuar umbla si microbuz,si motoreta,si bicicleta pe langa mine..cel cu autotalpa.

Doar in buricul orasului,centre of the centre exista cateva tablite,caci acolo se aduna majoritatea oamenilor la o plimbare.In rest traficul e fluidizat,au niste autobenzi catastrofale....ma refer aici la dimensiuni.Daca faci un mini accident,vine politia si se rezolva acolo pe loc,nu mai duci hartoage,vii cu alte hartoage,doar sa se constate ca de fapt nu ai hartiile pe care le vroiau ei..samd
La trecerea de pietoni.."every man for himself" nu exista stop.Adica stai nene ca acuma merg numa pietonii.
Ca faza.Eram cu mama si cu fata aia care ne ajuta sa imi traduca in engleza,stiu cateva cuvinte,si fraze in chineza..dar nu indeajuns de bine incat sa tin o conversatie.In any case,eram pe trecerea de pietoni,cand intre mine si mama..ce sa declar erau vro 60-70 cm,au trecut 2 motociclisti cu vro 40-50 la ora.
Se vede ca e celalalt colt al pamantului,totul e pe dos fata de cum e la noi.Insa ei 100% sigur nu au probleme cu traficul.Sa parcurgi un oras cat de 3 ori Bucurestiul in 1ora jumate mi se parea de neimaginat.(btw ca si oras ma refer la Hangzhou..care e mult mai mic decat Guangzhou..Guangzhou fiind aproape la fel de mare ca si Shanghai)

In Shanghai am mai vazut ceva semne de circulatie,insa in mare parte ei nu au ceva regulament dur,ceva set de "things you must do".Pe autobenzi insa au limita,de multe ori nu poti rula cu mai mult de 120-130.Insa tocmai din acea cauza nu prea sunt accidente.In 4 orase cat am fost,am vazut doar un accident..si ala minor.
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Cam asa e in Guangzhou.Doar in centru e diferit,acolo masinile nu prea au ce cauta,doar bicicleta si autotalpa sunt permise

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Thirty years ago, China only produced trucks and buses and there were virtually no private passenger cars in China. At that time, there were already many Dacia 1300 cars on the roads of Romania. This year, China’s car sale will exceed 10 millions, likely surpassing the US to become the world top auto market. However, the consciousness of traffic rules of many Chinese apparently does not develop at the same speed as the number of autos.

You surely can see the sign of a third world country in the traffics of many Chinese cities with people disobeying traffic rules. This problem probably will need time of a couple of decades to solve. Beijing is one of a few cities in China to have less of this problem. Beijing has a great road system that few other cities in the world can rival. When I requested a taxi driver to stop at a street in Beijing last year, he refused because he was afraid of getting a heavy fine for stopping at the prohibited zone. To make traffic in the cities more orderly, China must continue to build road and parking infrastructure, educate its citizens to obey traffic rules, and establish a strong law enforcement system for punishing traffic rule violators. In California, you will get a fine of $300 if a policeman sees you not fully stopping your car for two seconds at a stop sign. In many Chinese cities, motorcycles are prohibited now in order to make traffic better and reduce pollution.

Now enjoy pretty girls at Shanghai Auto Show

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Ca sa nu mai tot scriu...

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OMG. Aia care se plimba pe jos pe contrasens sunt bazati.
Modul asta de "a face trafic" este nesustenabil si pe termen scurt, cred ca autoritatile sunt in sedinta

ablium, linkuri cu gagici? LOL. And cheap
 
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