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Old 30-06-2009, 21:26   #2101 (permalink)
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au povestit ai mei zilele trecute cu un chinez care le e prieten de familie. omul a facut o vizita in china, sa-si vada parintii. a stat cam 3 luni acolo, in ceva oras mare (multe milioane de locuitori). spunea ca a racit foarte puternic pentru ca blocurile nu sunt incalzite acolo (nu stiu daca e vorba doar de orasul ala... sau de un cartier al lui...). pur si simplu nu exista calorifere in locuinte, iar oamenii sunt obisnuiti cu mediul uneori "racoros" si nu au probleme. el insa, venind de la caldura centralelor romanesti... era sa-si dea duhul pe acolo.

din ce mi s-a povestit ca ar fi ciripit omul in rest... ar reiesi insa ca per ansamblu e de bine. ca nivel de trai nu se prea compara cu nimic din ce vedem in romania. sigur, e vorba de un oras. si sigur... treaba cu incalzirea e tare ciudata.

mi-ar fi placut sa-l descos eu cu niste intrebari, dar nu s-a putut deocamdata.
 
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Old 30-06-2009, 21:50   #2102 (permalink)
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Central heating is a standard facility in the north of Yellow River. In southern China, heating is not needed because temperature never or rarely drops below 0 C. The difficult area is located in the south of Yellow River and north of Yangtze River, where temperature may occasionally drop below 0 C. People living in those regions have to use electric heaters if they want heating and can afford electricity bill. Air conditioners that can provide heat are increasingly popular now. Although the temperature in Shanghai is higher than in Beijing in winter, living in Shanghai is more difficult than living in Beijing in winter because Beijing has central heating but Shanghai does not.

In US, the monthly bill for heating per house in winter is typically several hundred dollars. The temperature is always kept at about 25 C. In California, the temperature never drops below 0 C and it never snows, but heating facility is a standard for houses. People only wear shirt at work. That is why US consumes so much energy per capita.

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Old 30-06-2009, 23:20   #2103 (permalink)
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bun, cert e ca pentru unul venit de la temperaturile noastre de iarna (a mers in china din ianuarie pana prin aprilie) a fost la propriu un soc sa traiasca acolo fara caldura in casa. localnicii nu aveau probleme, e drept.
 
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Old 30-06-2009, 23:31   #2104 (permalink)
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au povestit ai mei zilele trecute cu un chinez care le e prieten de familie. omul a facut o vizita in china, sa-si vada parintii. a stat cam 3 luni acolo, in ceva oras mare (multe milioane de locuitori). spunea ca a racit foarte puternic pentru ca blocurile nu sunt incalzite acolo (nu stiu daca e vorba doar de orasul ala... sau de un cartier al lui...). pur si simplu nu exista calorifere in locuinte, iar oamenii sunt obisnuiti cu mediul uneori "racoros" si nu au probleme. el insa, venind de la caldura centralelor romanesti... era sa-si dea duhul pe acolo...
Asa e, mai ales in Sud unde temperatura e mai tot timpul anului pozitiva, nu au calorifere si se incalzesc asa cum zice ablium, cu radiatoare electrice. Cind am ajuns in Nanning la inceputul lui martie mi s-a parut cam frig in apartamentul unde am stat. Si eu m-am racit rau de tot, dar nu de la frig! Pe la mijlocul lui martie a venit un val de caldura si nu se putea iesi pe strada la 32*C! (si noapte cind era mai "racoare" transpiram din greu, din cauza umezelii!) Pur si simpu simti ca te sufoci. Am pornit aerul conditionat si dupa citeva ore am fot "praf", desi am setat temperatura la 23*C sa nu fie prea mare "socul".
 
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Old 01-07-2009, 08:23   #2105 (permalink)
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Veni vorba de raceala

Cam trei zile am stat si eu pe tusa acolo,febra 39...Si in hotelurile de 4 stele tot cam la fel,nu tu calorifere,apoi cand se pornea cate o furtuna serioasa,scadeau temperaturile si inghetam de frig.Stateam mereu cu bluza si geaca pe mine in camera.

Medicamente am bagat mult mai multe,insa pe avion doar astea le luasem cu mine.Nasul inca 1 saptamana dupa ce am venit acasa tot infundat era...Catre sud e o umiditate f mare,normal ca te racesti,fie ca vrei sau nu.
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Old 01-07-2009, 11:05   #2106 (permalink)
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Eu cu ocazia racelii respective am constientizat brusc cit de periculos e sa te aventurezi intr-o tara cu alfabet "extraterestru"...Daca patesti ceva (si ajungi imobilizat) esti terminat, nu te poti intelege cu nimeni nimic, aia nici macar nu inteleg ce sa faca si sa anunte compania de asigurari, etc...Altfel trebuie sa ai oricum un translator electronic sa poti comunica ceva. Daca te ratacesti la 200m de locuinta risti sa ramai pierdut in spatiu. De mine a avut grija tot timpul o chinezoaica, comunicam prin translatoare electronice, dar numai in propozitii simple succesive, altfel rezulta traduceri care nu au nici o legatura dintr-o limba intr-alta... (cu cei de la compania cu care am avut treaba nu au fost probleme, ne-am inteles bine in limba engleza, dar aia ereau in Shenzhen, linga Hong-Kong...)
 
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Old 06-07-2009, 15:14   #2108 (permalink)
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Foarte bine! Separatistii musulmani fac scandal impotriva etnicilor chinezi, de fapt si-ar dori autonomie teritoriala. "Many Uighurs yearn for independence for Xinjiang, a sprawling region rich in minerals and oil that borders eight Central Asian nations...Rioters on Sunday overturned barricades, attacking vehicles and houses, and clashed violently with police, according to media and witness accounts. State television aired footage showing protesters attacking and kicking people on the ground. Other people, who appeared to be Han Chinese, sat dazed with blood pouring down their faces."
Sa le-o traga la toti, musulmanii sint o sursa de probleme peste tot.
 
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Old 06-07-2009, 15:46   #2109 (permalink)
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Sa le-o traga la toti, musulmanii sint o sursa de probleme peste tot.
Off-topic: Din ce am vazut eu in Europa, romanii sunt o sursa de probleme peste tot. Conform logicii tale ar trebui sa "le-o traga la toti", da? In 2005 cand am venit in Cipru erau intre 500-1000 de romani, acum sunt in jur de 75000, dupa date neoficiale. Te rog sa imi explici si mie cum pot sa "le-o trag la toti", fara sa ii afectez pe cei nevinovati. Nu de alta, dar era un paradis aici inainte sa vina hoarda asta, odata cu intrarea RO in UE si asta e o problema care ma macina.

On-topic: E patetica atitudinea ta, PATETICA! China are probleme mari cu drepturile omului, insa le rezolva "globalizat". Cum de Canada a putut sa dea eschimosilor aproape un subcontinent? Tot asa si China ar trebui sa faca cu tibetanii si uighursii, si US-ul cu indienii...
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Old 06-07-2009, 16:59   #2110 (permalink)
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Ia sa nu mai dea nimeni la nimeni nimic! Indienii din US sint cei mai fericiti in situatia actuala, nici n-ai idee ce facilitati si avantaje au. In rest, nu compara miscarile separatiste care atenteaza la integritatea unui stat cu hoardele de imigranti romani sau altii care cauta un loc de munca. Cei 75.000 de romani nu vor sa isi faca in Cipru un mini-stat autonom... Chinezii le-o trag (si sper sa le-o traga in continuare) la cei care fac scandal, nu la toti cei 8.000.000 de musulmani din provincia cu pricina. Acolo sint grupuri de interese care vor sa puna mina pe resursele locale, pulimea nu are nimic de cistigat indiferent cine administreaza o anumita regiune, nici acolo nici in alta parte. Si ar trebui sa le-o traga toti peste tot la cei care fac scandal si creaza tensiuni si distrugeri de bunuri care nu le apartin.
 
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Old 07-07-2009, 11:21   #2111 (permalink)
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Ethnic riot often starts with the name of anti-discrimination, but end up with beating, burning, and looting.

These two videos show ethnic riot during 1992 in Los Angeles. I was in San Francisco and Berkeley during the period and saw similar scenes.

The black mobs arbitrarily attack white people.


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The Korean store owners armed with guns to defend their stores against looting. America can become the most dangerous place if it collapses because everybody has a gun.

Koreans with machine guns on the roof.

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Old 07-07-2009, 13:10   #2112 (permalink)
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Ablium, ai putea sa ne spui procentajul de chinezi din Xinjiang in 1949 si in 2009?

Oldshooterman, taica, am impresia ca suferi de "musulmanita".
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Old 07-07-2009, 21:05   #2113 (permalink)
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Ablium, ce este rău în a-şi proteja mijlocul de supravieţuire cu orice preţ? De când este un rău de-a opri hoţii şi tâlharii (numeroşi după cum se vede) cu arme de foc?

Acest lucru va fi inevitabil peste tot în lume, dacă se ajunge la colaps financiar; este doar un mic exemplu de cum va fi odată cu căderea guvernelor şi implicit instalarea haosului.
Eu prefer să fiu cel înarmat, cui îi place s-o facă pe victima n-are decât.

Oricum, îmi place atitudinea koreenilor, în special în ultima vreme: "Leave me alone or I nuke your ass!"

Revenind la subiectul thread-ului, China cu siguranţă a început să încline balanţa superputerilor, însă nu va fi lăsată să se desfăşoare la capacitate maximă. Lumea va fi dominată de asiatici, într-o primă fază de conflict armat, iar mai apoi de China. Dacă se mai dovedeşte a fi şi o ţară cu putere nucleară, atunci totul este stabilit.
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...Revenind la subiectul thread-ului, China cu siguranţă a început să încline balanţa superputerilor, însă nu va fi lăsată să se desfăşoare la capacitate maximă. Lumea va fi dominată de asiatici, într-o primă fază de conflict armat, iar mai apoi de China. Dacă se mai dovedeşte a fi şi o ţară cu putere nucleară, atunci totul este stabilit.
Nu va fi nici un razboi..., iar China e de mult timp o superputere nucleara:"China made remarkable progress in the 1960s in developing nuclear weapons. In a thirty-two-month period, China successfully exploded its first atomic bomb (October 16, 1964), launched its first nuclear missile (October 25, 1966), and detonated its first hydrogen bomb (June 14, 1967.)
Asa ca o sa poata sa-si faca ordine in zona de conflict cu separatistii fara sa-si faca probleme ca le sare cineva in ajutor (la separatisti) din exterior.
 
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Old 08-07-2009, 13:26   #2115 (permalink)
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Ablium, ai putea sa ne spui procentajul de chinezi din Xinjiang in 1949 si in 2009?
Xinjiang has a complex geopolitical history. Han Chinese controlled this area during Han and Tang dynasty before nomad tribes formed an ethnic called Uighur.
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In the 18th century, when Qing dynasty took control Xinjiang again, the population of tribal Uighur was estimated to be a quarter of million. The area has been the territory of China since then. There are many other ethnics in Xinjiang besides Uighur and Han. The population of Han has increased from about 10% in 1949 to 40% at present. In 1950s, China sent a large number of youths for building farms from uncultivated land in Xinjiang. Recently, as China is liberalized, many private Han Chinese entrepreneurs have moved to Xinjiang for conducting business. There are also a large number of Uighur people moving to the cities in east coast.

Chinese government gives many privileges to ethnic minorities, such as more kids being allowed per family and lower standard for college entrance exams. Some Uighur in Chinese cities act like Tigans in Romania, committing crime of stealing and robbery at high rate. To avoid ethnic conflict, the police often give much lighter punishment than that given to the Han Chinese who commit similar crimes. I personally don’t like how the Chinese government handles crimes committed by ethnic minorities. In US, ethnic minorities, Black, Latino, and Native Indians (not Asians because of their over-representation) also enjoy some privileges in college admission and employment, but not in crime punishment.

Thanks to the government’s promotion of ethnic harmony, most Han Chinese do not hate ethnic minorities. But if a few minority separatists keep committing violent crimes against innocent Han Chinese as shown in following video by Korean TV, it will unavoidably create hatred toward the minority and eventually it will damage the interest of the whole ethnic minority. Obviously, the ratio is not the same as Serb to Albanian. Be realistic! The independence will never happen unless China completely collapses.


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Si in Romania minoritatile sint privilegiate in anumite privinte si din cauza asta li se urca la cap (e vorba de unguri si tigani; ungurii vor autonomie teritoriala, tiganii vor sa fure mai linistiti). O atitudine mai ferma din partea autoritatilor le-ar mai potoli aspiratiile. E foarte bine ca autoritatile chineze au intervenit prompt pentru ca cineva mai trebuie sa le dea o lectie la cei cu idei separatiste.
 
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Ia uite o chestie nouă cel puţin pentru mine:
Chinese troops flood streets after riots - Yahoo! News

Ce ziceţi? Se ţin de cuvânt în ceea ce privesc execuţiile?
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Da, se tin de cuvint! La fel si cu traficantii de droguri (nu e ca la noi...): "China marks anti-drug day with executions" (26 iunie 2009)

"AT least 20 people were executed, an equal number condemned and hundreds put on trial as China marked a global anti-drug day with stark warnings of rising illicit drug use, state press said..."
 
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This is a very good debate about China between two western intellectuals
Is western supremacy but a blip as China rises to the global summit? | Martin Jacques and Will Hutton | Comment is free | The Guardian


It is also interesting to see the Inglehart-Welzel Cultural Map of the World
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"Indienii din US sint cei mai fericiti in situatia actuala, nici n-ai idee ce facilitati si avantaje au." - dupa ce le-a fost furata toata tara de fetele palide si indienii decimati halal afacere.

"AT least 20 people were executed, an equal number condemned and hundreds put on trial as China marked a global anti-drug day with stark warnings of rising illicit drug use, state press said..." - traiasca democratia !!! vivat dreptatea!!!
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