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Old 18-09-2006, 23:13   #641 (permalink)
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avand in vedere ca in afara de cateva orase cu zgarie nori si 2-3 fabrici unde manufactureaza telefoane mobile, china n-are prea multe alte surse de poluare, fiind inca la stadiul in care chinezul sade pe prispa si sculpteza bobul de orez in plezniturile de bici ale tovarasului de la partid, cred ca nu trebuie sa-ti mai impartasesc surse...
http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn6515
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Old 18-09-2006, 23:32   #642 (permalink)
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iar altii degeaba citeste ca nu intelege....ia vezi cateva posturi in urma....poate deslusesti....

''Adevarul e ca nu e nimic de inteles, cateva posturi in urma am dat doar peste pareri inepte sau aiuristice. Ce sa-i fac, poate nu ma ridic la nivelul economistelor si politicienelor CG si la nivelul subtilitatilor pe care acestea le schimba intre ele.''

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Old 18-09-2006, 23:39   #643 (permalink)
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Adevarul e ca nu e nimic de inteles, cateva posturi in urma am dat doar peste pareri inepte sau aiuristice. Ce sa-i fac, poate nu ma ridic la nivelul economistelor si politicienelor CG si la nivelul subtilitatilor pe care acestea le schimba intre ele.
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Old 19-09-2006, 11:19   #644 (permalink)
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Does democracy mean anti-reform? We have seen it in France and now we see it in Hungary
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060919/ts_nm/hungary_dc_8
 
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Old 19-09-2006, 15:39   #645 (permalink)
 
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@supermanuel - parerea mea e ca daca folosesti 10 unitati resurse ca sa produci un bun/serviciu, iar in anul urmator folosesti 30 unitati resurse ca sa produci 2 bunuri/servicii, nu inseamna eficienta, desi ai dublat productia si nu uita ca nu vorbim despre un capitalism made in USA, asa ca nu ma lua cu regulile pietei. hibridul chinezesc (ca orice lucru chinezesc) nu e fiabil

@katie - tu glumesti in legatura cu poluarea din china nu? pentru ca daca nu glumesti ai face bine sa te mai documentezi. si pigbrother are dreptate, china are cele mai mari rezerve de carbune din lume, pe care le si exploateaza si valorifica (implica ardere). poate ar fi interesant sa cauti si cat petrol foloseste china in prezent. daca nu dai crezare linkurilor iepurasului martzian iata si un link autohton: http://www.adevarulonline.ro/2006-08...ia_196213.html



iata si o alta fata a economiei minune din CHINA
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China-avertismente privind posibile tulburări sociale

Sărăcia ?n mediul rural din China s-a agravat
?n China, ministrul siguranţei publice a avertizat că ţara are de ?nfruntat o creştere a tulburărilor sociale şi a numărului infracţiunilor, pe fondul ad?ncirii diferenţelor dintre săraci şi bogaţi.
pericolul e cu atat mai mare cu cat astia stiu KARATE si juma' de miliard nervosi & karatisti pot face KO economie chineza

http://www.bbc.co.uk/romanian/news/s...bilitate.shtml
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@supermanuel - parerea mea e ca daca folosesti 10 unitati resurse ca sa produci un bun/serviciu, iar in anul urmator folosesti 30 unitati resurse ca sa produci 2 bunuri/servicii, nu inseamna eficienta, desi ai dublat productia si nu uita ca nu vorbim despre un capitalism made in USA, asa ca nu ma lua cu regulile pietei. hibridul chinezesc (ca orice lucru chinezesc) nu e fiabil
daca ar vinde pe piata chineza nu ti-as vorbi de economia de piata

De unde aia cu 10/1 vs 30/2?
 
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Old 19-09-2006, 15:57   #647 (permalink)
 
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se impun pe pietele tarilor sarace, nu cred ca in UK se ingramadeste lumea la chinezarii.

aia e de la mine. de fapt este modelul comunist de crestere economica. remember?
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Old 19-09-2006, 16:06   #648 (permalink)
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se impun pe pietele tarilor sarace, nu cred ca in UK se ingramadeste lumea la chinezarii.

aia e de la mine. de fapt este modelul comunist de crestere economica. remember?
pai textilele unde sunt facute? Nike? Adidas?

Pai tocmai asta e ca nu prea seamna a crestere economica comunista. As vrea eu sa fie asa de ineficienta...
 
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nike si adidas nu sunt branduri chinezesti. sunt imperialisti care folosesc mana de lucru ieftina din china (arata si asta nivelul de trai indestulator din china).

eu nu cred in hei rup-ul chinezesc... or sa pice in nas sper
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Old 19-09-2006, 16:26   #650 (permalink)
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Pai nu de branduri e vorba, ci de productie. Majoritatea companiilor fac outsourcing pentru imbracaminte & dudu.

Eu cred ca hei rupul e singura modalitate: infrastructura intr-un timp record.
 
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Old 19-09-2006, 16:48   #651 (permalink)
 
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si cu poluarea ce te faci supermane? ai vazut hartzile iepurasului martzian? in ritmul asta ploile acide din linkul meu or sa fie "good old times".
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Nimeni nu-si facea probleme cu poluarea UK cand tot ce faceau astia era sa extraga carbune si sa produca ciment Ti-am mai spus, e vorba de ce au nevoie acum. Vedem mai tarziu cum facem fata efectelor nedorite...
 
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ei da, dar UK facea asta in alte timpuri. si nu este o tara atat de mare (suprafatza & populatie) precum china.

e riscul lor pana la urma... la populatia lor, isi permit cateva sute de milioane de sacrificii pentru un viitor luminos
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pai exact, o faceau in timpuri in care nu poluarea era importanta, ci industrializarea
 
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pai exact, o faceau in timpuri in care nu poluarea era importanta, ci industrializarea
o faceau in timpurile cand nu se stia exact cat de nociva e poluarea
 
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o faceau in timpurile cand nu se stia exact cat de nociva e poluarea
nu se stia pentru ca nu interesa pe nimeni. Pentru orice fel de cercetare, mai intai trebuie sa existe o intrebare.
 
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nu se stia pentru ca nu interesa pe nimeni. Pentru orice fel de cercetare, mai intai trebuie sa existe o intrebare.
intrebari de genul <de ce se imbolnavesc oamenii?> si <de ce (uneori) mor oamenii bolnavi?> chinuie umanitatea cam de multisor. din pacate ne-a luat ceva timp sa aflam ca nu sunt zeii responsabili pt 100% din cauze. nu lipsa de interes a fost problema.
 
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A video for Chongqing, a inland city in China
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOr8tJJs_ZY


A amateur video by a Hungarian tourist. Nice music.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PipLcp_2_o

I like the slogan on the billboard in the square of the city, "Innovatiion Is the Soul of the Progress of a Nation" (in Chinese). I think that it is a indication that China to start emphasizing innovation.
 
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Moderator, why is the allowed editing time so short now?


This continuation of the Video of Chongqing (night view).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9FCilzgCtg

Beijing has six rings of expressway. I am not aware any other city has so many expressway rings.

3rd ring road extrance
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bC7RC5Mlbdc

4th ring road
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWH0WTTkKQA

Barney, How many expressway rings doe Paris have?

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Moderator, why is the allowed editing time so short now?
Odata cu trecerea la VB 3.6 s-a redus timpul de edit la 2 ore. Decizia a fost a administratorilor.
 
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