Razboiul din Iraq

[Doişpe]

Very funny. Laugh at the duck.

[valh]

O companie de soldati americani a fost surprinsa de un reporter OTV in timp ce ,inarmati cu cate doua canistre in mana,sustrageau (furau) benzina irakienilor din rezervoarele masinilor parcate in fata vilelor rezidentiale din chirpici ,construite de fostul dictator Saddam Husein in semn de recunostinta fata de serviciile locuitorilor de bine, in instaurarea democratiei socialiste in Irakul baas.Luati la intrebari de reporterul razboinic ,acestia s-au pierdut si si-au recunoscut marsava fapta si motivul pentru care se aflau la ciordit benzina irakiana. Seful lor cel mare ,ramas fara benzina langa Camp David ,disperat ,a format o echipa de comando sa-l scoata din impas.A trimis echipa in Irak sa ii aduca toata benzina alora in felul acesta el sa fie lipsit de griji si sa le faca in necaz francezilor si germanilor ale caror masini aveau rezervoarele uscate de mult timp.reporterul naucit de dezvaluirile soldatilor americani,murmura incurcat .."si eu care credeam ca vreti sa luati monopulul unui nebun ,asupra petrolului,monopol care ii permitea sa santajeze si sa acumuleze armament si tehnologie militara de ultima ora....".Vax ,ii zisera americanii,mai citeste si tu Romania Mare si priveste la postul unde esti reporter,si vei afla adevarul asa cum este el,nu mai citi nonstop Romania Libera. Adevarul nu este intodeauna ceea ce pare a fi. E altul. Si plecara multumiti de raspunsul lor ,cu canistrele pe spate in care luasera tot benzenul irakian. Seful lor sigur ii va decora.

[evilgheorghe]

Bai, eu am impresia ca americanii vor sa le fure nisipul.

[valh]

De ce crezi asta,l-au terminat pe al lor din Arizona?

Sau vor sa ingroape zona 51 sub nisip irakian?

[PigBrother]

De fapt, Emiratele Arabe (parca) chiar au importat cantitati mari de nisip din Suedia. Pe la inceputul anilor 80.

Poate o pun de un schimb in natura cu americanii.

[evilgheorghe]

Asta este, da. Il fura ca sa-l vanda, pe sub mana, in Emirate.

[Doişpe]

Mai bine ne bagam si noi mai serios acolo, sa luam cateva transporturi de nisip ca sa acoperim gunoaiele de la Costinesti.

[evilgheorghe]

N-au ei atat nisip incat sa ingroape gunoaiele din Romania.

[Ivan]

Daca discutia ontopic s-a terminat putem inchide. OK?

[macmac]

Originally Posted by Ivan

Daca discutia ontopic s-a terminat putem inchide. OK?

N-as fi de acord. Fiindca de aia si-au dat viata eroii americani in razboi, ca sa fie uitati ?! Putina recunostinta, oameni buni ! Doar ne-au salvat de atacul cu arme chimice al lui Saddam ! Doar si-au sacrificat viata pentru instaurarea democratiei !
Plus ca mai avem si noi, astia pe care nu prea ne duce creierasul, ocazia de a ne fi luminata incetosata minte de catre baietii astia "cu IQ pozitiv", cititori de "Romania Libera".

[bogdan george]

Originally Posted by Ivan

Daca discutia ontopic s-a terminat putem inchide. OK?

Baietii din Irak inca isi mai dau la gioale. Pe de alta parte, suspendarea lui Basescu fuse, fuse si se duse...

[jet li]

Ati auzit de soldatul irakian care a omorat trei soldati americani in timp ce patrula cu ei ? Se pare ca era membru Al Quaeda infiltrat !
Apoi a fugit si a fost prins.
Deci un membru "Al Quaeda", se infiltreaza in armata irakiana si doar atat reuseste sa faca, pentru asta s-a infiltrat ? Mai e si prins. Sa-i spuna lu mutu povestea asta

Ce nu ne spun ziarele de la noi e ce spun ziarele de la ei, cei doi americani au lovit o femeie gravida :
http://www.roadstoiraq.com/2008/01/03/caes...pregnant-woman/

The incident happened two days ago when an Iraqi soldier ?Caesar Saadi? joined the American occupation forces in a raid in Mosul, he opened fire after he saw the American soldiers started to beat and kick an Iraqi pregnant woman.

Poate unii din voi o sa ziceti ca ziarele de la ei au capatat brusc dragoste fata de teroristii si il lauda tocmai pe asta. Sunt politisti in America care electrocuteaza oameni in carucioare si femei gravide (nu dau pe afara de destepti ). In Irak fiti siguri ca nu au trimis cei mai destepti americani, acolo sunt ce saraci si fara educatie, Abu Ghraib a existat, foarte probabil cei doi soldati omorati chiar bateau o femeie gravida.
Nu sunt anti american, daca as vedea pe unul ca bate o femeie gravida ultimul lucru care m-ar interesa e din ce tara e.

Buddies of mine that are still serving have told me some interesting things as well when they were back on leave and able to communicate without censorship.

One thing I learned for sure, if Marines are anywhere nearby you need to stay the hell away. unless you like getting beat or having your car torched or having your personal goods confinscated. His team had made a game about who could take the most Iraqi headwear and they developed a point system for baseball caps, headscarves, etc etc. Womens headscarves were double points. The punching and kicking and man handling of the Iraqis seemed so routine to him that he couldn't even understand why I thought it was outrageous when he told me that a Lance Corp. had shoved an Iraqi kid away from a sidewalk and broke the kids arm. His response was "he shouldv'e known to get away from us on foot patrol, they either move or we move em" Apparently the kid was around 8 or 9. He was shocked that I was shocked!

An occupation force will always revert to treating the indigenous people like animals. That's why wars of Aggression and Invasion are iilegal by international law.

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread324857/pg2

[ixtl]

Epilog (?)

Pentagonul confirmă, discret, că nu a existat nicio legătură între Saddam Hussein şi Al-Qaida

V2.0

[jet li]

Profesorii englezi pusi sa uite putin istoria :
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/ed...ry-795711.html

In a "Students' Worksheet" which accompanies the lesson plan, it stresses the "reconstruction" of Iraq, noting that 5,000 schools and 20 hospitals have been rebuilt. But there is no mention of civilian casualties.

In the "Teacher Notes" section, it talks about how the "invasion was necessary to allow the opportunity to remove Saddam Hussein" but it fails to mention the lack of United Nations backing for the war. The notes also use the American spelling of "program".

What the MoD's guide says... and what it omits

* "Iraq was invaded early 2003 by a United States coalition. Twenty-nine other countries, including the UK, also provided troops... Iraq had not abandoned its nuclear and chemical weapons development program". After the first Gulf War, "Iraq did not honour the cease-fire agreement by surrendering weapons of mass destruction..."

The reality: The WMD allegation, central to the case for war, proved to be bogus. David Kay, appointed by the Bush administration to search for such weapons after the invasion, found no evidence of a serious programme or stockpiling of WMDs. The "coalition of the willing" was the rather grand title of a rag-tag group of countries which included Eritrea, El Salvador and Macedonia.

* "The invasion was also necessary to allow the opportunity to remove Saddam, an oppressive dictator, from power, and bring democracy to Iraq".

The reality: Regime change was not the reason given in the run-up to the invasion – the US and UK governments had been advised it would be against international law. Saddam was regarded as an ally of the West while he was carrying out some of the worst of his atrocities. As for democracy, elections were held in Iraq during the occupation and have led to a sectarian Shia government. Attempts by the US to persuade the government to be more inclusive towards minorities have failed.

* "Over 7,000 British troops remain in Iraq... to contribute to reconstruction, training Iraqi security forces... They continue to fight against a strong militant Iraqi insurgency."

The reality: The number of British troops in Iraq is now under 5,000. They withdrew from their last base inside Basra city in September and are now confined to the airport where they do not take part in direct combat operations.

* "The cost of UK military operations in Iraq for 2005/06 was £958m."

The reality: The cost of military operations in Iraq has risen by 72 per cent in the past 12 months and the estimated cost for this year is £1.648bn. The House of Commons defence committee said it was "surprised" by the amount of money needed considering the slowing down of the tempo of operations.

* "Over 312,000 Iraqi security forces have been trained and equipped (Police, Army and Navy)."

The reality: The Iraqi security forces have been accused, among others by the American military, of running death squads targeting Sunnis. In Basra, the police became heavily infiltrated by Shia militias and British troops had to carry out several operations against them. On one occasion British troops had to smash their way into a police station to rescue two UK special forces soldiers who had been seized by the police.

* "A total of 132 UK military personnel have been killed in Iraq."

The reality: The figure is 175 since the invasion of 2003. A British airman died in a rocket attack at the airport two weeks ago despite British troops not going into Basra city on operations. Conservative estimates of the number of Iraqi civilians killed since the beginning of the invasion stand at around 85,000.

* "From hospitals to schools to wastewater treatment plants, the presence of coalition troops is aiding the reconstruction of post-Saddam Iraq."

The reality: Five years after "liberation", Baghdad still only has a few hours of intermittent power a day. Children are kidnapped from schools for ransom and families of patients undergoing surgery at hospitals are advised to buy and bring in blood from sellers who congregate outside.