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    Uimeste-ne, ce s-a intamplat ?
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    se intampla de prin martie , vreo 3000 tone de combustibil radioctiv imprastiat in toata lumea incontinuu. De vreo 20 ori mai mult decat la Cernobil adica.

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    Si cine te-a invatat pe tine ca radiatiile absorbite se masoara in cpm? Cifra aia nu zice absolut nimic. Si comparatia cu Cernobal de unde ai scos-o?
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    poti sa convertesti si singur in microsiverts. 20.000 CP inseamna 600 ori peste valoarea normala oricum, si asta la mii de km de Fukushima. Ti se pare ca totul e ok ?

    Comparatia cu Cernobil o fac specialistii :

    Arnold Gundersen, a former nuclear industry senior vice president, told Al Jazeera.

    "We have 20 nuclear cores exposed, the fuel pools have several cores each, that is 20 times the potential to be released than Chernobyl," said Gundersen. "The data I'm seeing shows that we are finding hot spots further away than we had from Chernobyl, and the amount of radiation in many of them was the amount that caused areas to be declared no-man's-land for Chernobyl. We are seeing square kilometres being found 60 to 70 kilometres away from the reactor. You can't clean all this up. We still have radioactive wild boar in Germany, 30 years after Chernobyl."

    Fukushima: It's much worse than you think - Features - Al Jazeera English



    Ministry of Education, Culture, Sports, Science and Technology published the soil contamination data of 60 km area from Fukushima plants.
    The data was taken from 6/1/2011 ~ 11/22/2011.
    Though it’s only about I-131, Cs-134, Cs-137 mainly,the result shows the worst contaminated area in Fukushima is 33 times worse than Chernobyl. It proves Fukushima is something nobody has ever gone through.
    In Chernobyl, area contaminated worse than 1,480,000 bq/m2 was defined as the worst red zone, “immediate mandatory evacuating area.”
    In Fukushima, Namiemachi, 22km north west to Fukushima plants is contaminated, which they measured 760,000 bq/kg (Cs-134 + Cs-137). It equals to 49,400,000 bq/m2.

    Namie machi, Fukushima is 33 times worse than Chernobyl | Fukushima Diary

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    Cu autoritatea lui Gunderson ne-am lamurit pe pagina trecuta, n-are rost.

    20.000 cpm sunt echivalenti cu 333 bequereli (dezintegrari pe secunda) in cel mai rau caz si sunt o masura a radioactivitatii, nu a radioactivitatii absorbite precum sievert. Vezi ca le incurci pe acolo. Anyway, FYI, un kilogram de granit emite ~1000 bequereli, ceea ce face analiza ta cu "de peste 600 de ori!!!!" cam ridicola. Have fun.

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    sunt mii de linkuri care intaresc cele spuse de Gunderson si ministrul Japoniei. Multe alte persoane avizate, specialisti sustin acelasi lucru. Nu cred ca sunt toti nebuni. Nu stau sa citez pe fiecare in parte pt asta exista google.

    Fiecare crede ce vrea insa, tu poti dormi linistit, guvernul vegheaza pt tine.

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    Yeah, sure, doar pentru ca nu pun botul la toate basinile aruncate la plezneala de toti attention-manwhore inseamna ca-s spalat pe creier de guvern. Mai invatati si voi sa argumentati, ca este gratis.

    Eu doar ti-am spus de ce gogul ala cu "20.000 cpm, o sa murim" abereaza, ca aia cu "normal este 50-60" este scoasa din putul gandirii si ca individul habar n-are despre ce vorbeste iar tu, care i-ai preluat capodopera de pe Iutub fara sa faci niste verificari simple, stii cu atat mai putin. In rest, voie buna si sanatate.
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    In ultima analiza, este un accident care nu are legatura cu cernobal care a fost provocat de niste idioti, este forta majora cutremur tsunami etc shit happened. Iar faptul ca guvernul japoniei/altele nu spun "adevarul" despre catastrofa sau il spun, oricum nu schimba mare lucru, nu ai unde sa te duci. Stay and face the music. Ca sunt cacanari si mint si dezinformeaza, well, nothing to see here, business as usual.

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    https://twitter.com/#!/HirokoTabuchi...404864/photo/1

    From earlier today: elevated radiation levels still the norm in Iitate Village, Fukushima
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    Japan suppressed key radiation report

    "Predictions on the amount of radiation that had already been released from the crippled reactors, as well as further radiation that might escape into the atmosphere "could by no means be released to the public," says the document, according to Kyodo News."

    "In another report released last week, an independent panel revealed that the government was drawing up plans to evacuate the 13 million residents of Tokyo at the same time as it was reassuring the public that there was no reason to worry about the situation at the nuclear facility."

    Nu cred ca necesita comentarii suplimentare (din partea mea).

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    Fukushima Daiichi Site: Cesium-137 is 200 times greater than at Chernobyl Accident
    The Radiation Warnings You Won’t Get from the Mainstream Propaganda Machine

    "After the North American governments refused to fund testing, oceanographer Ken Buesseler, a senior scientist at the non-profit Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution in Woods Hole, Mass, along with Nicholas Fisher, a marine sciences professor at the State University of New York at Stony Brook, and other concerned scientists, managed to secure private funding for a Pacific research voyage. The results?

    Cesium levels in the Pacific had initially gone up an astonishing 45 million times above pre-accident levels. The levels then declined rapidly for a while, but after that, they unexpectedly levelled off.In July, cesium levels stopped declining and remained stuck at 10,000 times above pre-accident levels.This means the ocean isn’t diluting the radiation as expected. If it had been, cesium levels would have kept falling.The finding suggests that radiation is still being released into the ocean long after the accident in March, 2011."

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    Cred ca vara asta mai bine nu mergem la mare... Sau in orice caz, nu la Pacific...
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    Deocamdata ideea respectiva nu e luata in serios sau e bine ascunsa de presa. Fukushima: Government Insiders Warn Of Tokyo Evacuation Threat

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    In sfirsit o idee buna: Dr. Koide of Kyoto University

    "- Extremely contaminated food should be eaten by people who have promoted nuclear power. TEPCO top management, and politicians and scholars who have promoted nuclear power.
    - The rest of the contaminated food should be eaten by adults, who have allowed nuclear power to this extent, so that the non-contaminated food goes to children.
    - Sadly, the Fukushima accident happened, and has spread contamination throughout the world. So there is no food that is clean or safe. But there is a continuous variety of food from extremely contaminated food to relatively safe food. The issue is how to accept [allocate] such food.

    - Some people have suggested some type of ID cards that will be required when purchasing food. With that system, if you are above certain age, you won't be allowed to buy "clean" food."

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    Deci nu normele de securitate din industria nucleara sunt insuficiente ci energia nucleara este proasta. Yay, haideti sa ardem iar petrol si carbune, este mai bine pentru viitorul nostru!. Oh, God, why?!?
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    Cei interesati, nu ratati comentariile: Fukushima Daiichi Worker: Nothing can be done except to leak radioactive water! — Honestly feel that we are dumping massive amounts into ocean — Will spread all over world, reaching Hawaii and US soon

    "It's frightening when you realize that there are soulless people in power, whether corporate or political, who are apparently fine with a ruined planet. So what, big deal. They have no love for life other than their own and no particular love for the earth. It's simply about money and control. About the here and now. The future can go get screwed."

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    Quote Originally Posted by AStateOfMind View Post
    Io zic ca toti de la Fukushima, ba pardon, toti din japonia vor muri, in timp. Parol.

    Deocamdata nu exista nici un fel de date asupra contaminarilor. Doar articole de 2 lei ale unor asa zisi oameni de stiinta.
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    Fukushima Threatens The Continuation of Life as We Know It

    Desi nu e nici un pericol acolo, situatia e tinuta sub control (in maxim citeva zeci de ani, eventual citeva sute, vor reusi sa curete zona), mancarea radioactiva e chiar sanatoasa, apa contaminata radioactiv deversata in Pacific favorizeaza extinderea biodiversitatii (mutanti), tot mai multi se agita cu stiri alarmiste...

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    Nu poti sa faci omleta fara sa spargi oua. Nu or sa apara mutanti. Nu au aparut nici in urma exploziilor nucleare de la Hiroshima si Nakasaki. Aici e vorba doar de o centrala nucleara, se arunca niste apa contaminata in ocean, mare brinza!

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