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    Only 60 Years of Farming Left If Soil Degradation Continues

    "Generating three centimeters of top soil takes 1,000 years, and if current rates of degradation continue all of the world's top soil could be gone within 60 years."
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    "Land degradation stretches to about 30 % of the total global land area.
    The problem persists, with a reported loss rate of about 10 million hectares per year.

    In reality, the situation may be much more worrying. Over the last 5 decades, increases in agricultural productivity have made it possible to produce more crops on the same amount of land.
    But the problem is that because agricultural land is often degraded and almost useless, producers keep on moving to more productive land. Globally, the land used and abandoned in the last 50 years may be equal to the amount of land used today."(World Wildlife Fund)

    "Because of various farming methods that strip the soil of carbon and make it less robust as well as weaker in nutrients, soil is being lost at between 10 and 40 times the rate at which it can be naturally replenished. Even the well-maintained farming land in Europe, which may look idyllic, is being lost at unsustainable rates."(Professor John Crawford/the University of Sydney)
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    Pragul critic a fost deja depasit, mult mai repede decat s-a anticipat: New Science Suggests More Land-Based Ecosystems Lost than Biosphere Can Bear (Published August 4, 2014 · Updated July 2, 2017)

    "An important scientific journal article published today finds that 66% of Earth’s land area must be maintained as natural and agro-ecological ecosystems to sustain a livable environment. Yet about 50% have already been lost, threatening global biosphere collapse."
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    Foarte tare, tinand cont de faptul ca e doar un proiect de amator!

    Referitor la comentariul lui relativ la discutia cu un caine, incepand de anul trecut s-au marit investitiile pentru realizarea unui "traducator pentru discutiile cu animale". S-a constatat ca animalele considerate in clasa celor mai inteligente (cum ar fi delfinii) au un vocabular chiar complex si se spera ca ar fi posibila descifrarea lui folosind inteligenta artificiala. Vor sa faca dispozitive dotate cu AI care asculta si observa miscarile animalelor (miscarea corpului face parte din sistemul de comunicare) si care sa traduca in engleza (sau alta limba) ceea ce spune animalul si sa traduca si invers mesajele transmise de oameni (bine-nteles in limita vocabularului animalului respectiv).

    Daca reuseste proiectul, se considera ca va fi o realizare cu totul extraordinara.

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    Exemplele respective doar subliniaza o mentalitate retrograda. Noroc ca mai sunt si oameni de exceptie care trateaza problema la modul serios, dupa multi ani de observatii si studii in domeniu. Delfinii de ex. au un "limbaj" foarte complex si comunica intre ei o cantitate mare de informatie. Cei ca tine si majoritatea vor fi foarte surprinsi de rezultatele in domeniu, iar NASA (si nu numai) e extrem de interesata de rezultatul cercetarilor pentru ca s-ar putea pune bazele unui sistem se comunicare in cazul contactului cu o civilizatie ET.

    AI deja gaseste solutii la care oamenii nici nu viseaza in tot mai multe domenii, printre cele mai remarcabile fiind insasi organizarea retelelor neuronale dupa care functioneaza.

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    Delfinii de ex. au un "limbaj" foarte complex si comunica intre ei o cantitate mare de informatie
    Link pliz. Prferabil nu din EvZ.

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    Nu am vazut nicaieri ca ar fi foarte complex.

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    “We know that dolphins have a complex communication system, but we don’t know what they are talking about yet.” (Jussi Karlgren/KTH Royal Institute of Technology in Stockholm)

    Lipseste determinativul "foarte"? Unii il folosesc, altii nu, in functie de la ce se raporteaza.

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    Practic afirmatia ta este (ca de obicei) o inflamare a realitatii, potrivita ca titlu de articol in Click.
    De fapt asta doream sa subliniez. Poate vreun cititor nou se uita peste topic si nu stie cu cine are de-a face.

    Delfinii de ex. au un "limbaj" foarte complex si comunica intre ei o cantitate mare de informatie

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    "Many species have very complex acoustic communication systems...", printre care delfinii si belenele. (Macquarie University/Department of Linguistics)

    In locul tau mi-as face mai multe probleme relativ la ce crede despre tine cineva care urmareste cum incerci sa "moderezi" discutiile pe anumite teme.

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    Intre un sistem de comunicatie foarte complex (de care au si furnicile, spre exemplu) si un limbaj foarte complex (cum au anumiti oameni) e o diferenta destul de mare.
    Faptul ca ai gasit cu Ctrl+F 'complex' in browser este relativ irelevant.

    In ce priveste reprosurile pe care ti le aduc - sunt pe persoana fizica, daca imi pun palaria de moderator o sa afli.

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    "Many species have very complex acoustic communication systems...", printre care delfinii si belenele. (Macquarie University/Department of Linguistics)
    Stii ce animal are un limbaj/sistem/whatever de comunicare foarte complex? Omul. Am intrat si eu pe acele link-uri si desi se explica acolo cateva lucruri, nimeni nu spune ca limbajul ar fi mai complex, sau cat-de-cat apropiat de complexitatea celor folosite de oameni. Practic este complex in contextul dat, e complex pentru niste animale si atat. Problema cu descifrarea sa consta mai mult in diferentele foarte mari fata de cel uman, nu in complexitatea efectiva a acestuia.
    Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people.

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    osm troleaza, ofera informatii partiale si trunchiate drept adevaruri fundamentale, atat poate. El proslaveste china, nu ai la ce sa te astepti de la el
    nu vezi ce bataios e mai sus cand ivan ii atrage atentia ca vorbeste aiurea?

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    (Cosmin_C) "The fundamental difference between the dolphin exchange of information and the human conversation is in the characteristics of the acoustic signals of their spoken language.”
    "This language exhibits all the design features present in the human spoken language, this indicates a high level of intelligence and consciousness in dolphins, and their language can be ostensibly considered a highly developed spoken language, akin to the human language.” (din studiul publicat in St. Petersburg Polytechnical University Journal: Physics and Mathematics)

    E concluzia unor cercetatori, nu a mea, indiferent daca va place sau nu, sau daca e contestata sau nu de altii. In urma unor serii de articole pe tema asta, plus relatari din alte surse, parerea mea (si nu numai) e ca "delfinii un limbaj foarte complex", iar altii pot sa aiba alta parere.
    O sa vedem in anul ~2021 daca afirmatia/parerea mea e o "inflamare a realitatii", cand se spera ca limbajul lor sa fie descifrat si sa fie pus la punct un "translator" bazat pe AI. Exista de cativa ani un prototip de "translator" primitiv.

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    Stia Remus Cernea ceva... )

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