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Old 02-09-2008, 15:16   #21 (permalink)
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Cern n-are nevoie de 'reclame' de genul asta ca sa atraga fonduri. Banii oricum vin de la tarile participante si se decid la nivel guvernamental.

Stirea mai bine spunea ca si romania a adus contributii proiectului. Sunt cateva mii de cercatatori care au lucrat la el printre care si zeci de conationali.

Deasemenea puteau sa vorbeasca despre asta:

http://public.web.cern.ch/Public/en/...Nobels-en.html
 
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Old 02-09-2008, 15:24   #22 (permalink)
 
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Citez: "Potrivit acestuia, găurile negre rezultate în urma exploziei ar putea creşte în aproximativ patru ani şi ar putea atrage Terra în ele"


ce nesimtiti ! de unde pana unde 4 ani ?
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Old 02-09-2008, 15:30   #23 (permalink)
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Suntem in 2008, plus inca 4 ani pana cresc gaurile alea = 2012. Fix data prezisa de mayasi pentru sfarsitul lumii. Bine, ultima parte e de spital, dar tot pe acolo e si prima, aia cu gaurile negre.
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Old 02-09-2008, 17:13   #24 (permalink)
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kyrre - e un interviu pe undeva cu hawking cu privire la LHC, care vorbeste de probabilitatea unor micro gauri-negre, dar zice el atat de mici incat emit mai multa materie decat atrag si se evapora singure aproape instant...
deci nu e fantezia unei minoritati etnice, ci o posibilitate
 
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Old 03-09-2008, 12:31   #25 (permalink)
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ma mir ca nu se mai discuta nimic despre asta .. mie unul mi se pare foarte intersant subiectul.
 
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Old 03-09-2008, 22:55   #26 (permalink)
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10sept - "Big Bang" experiment

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080825/...cience_cern_dc
Recunosc ca nu mai sunt la curent cu ingineria si matematica din spatele unor astfel de experimente.
Poate sa-mi spuna sau sa-mi dea cineva un link in care sa se explice de ce experimentul de pe 10sept nu prezinta absolut nici un fel de pericol?
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Old 03-09-2008, 23:32   #27 (permalink)
 
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Old 03-09-2008, 23:32   #28 (permalink)
 
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Old 03-09-2008, 23:37   #29 (permalink)
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Rolf.
Daca nu pe 10 septembrie, mai avem 12 decembrie 2012 sau in ultimul caz asteroidul in 2036.
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Old 03-09-2008, 23:45   #30 (permalink)
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Poate ma lamuresc specialistii de pe CG, ca se pricep la toate...
Daca o gaura d-asta neagra subterana este intretinuta artificial (deoarece nu poate fi o gaura neagra clasica Schwarzschild din motive evidente de masa si gravitatie), nu ar trebui sa se stinga de la sine cand sursa de energie dispare? Indiferent daca ii stingem noi lumina sau si-o stinge singura distrugandu-si instalatia care a generat-o.
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Old 03-09-2008, 23:56   #31 (permalink)
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N-are cum. Gaurile astea artificiale sint mai inteligente si distrug selectiv. Adica asta de care zici tu nu e proasta sa se scoata singura din priza.
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Old 04-09-2008, 00:05   #32 (permalink)
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Oh crap, la asta nu m-am gandit.
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Old 04-09-2008, 00:19   #33 (permalink)
 
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Poate ma lamuresc specialistii de pe CG, ca se pricep la toate...
Daca o gaura d-asta neagra subterana este intretinuta artificial (deoarece nu poate fi o gaura neagra clasica Schwarzschild din motive evidente de masa si gravitatie), nu ar trebui sa se stinga de la sine cand sursa de energie dispare? Indiferent daca ii stingem noi lumina sau si-o stinge singura distrugandu-si instalatia care a generat-o.
nu se stinge,draghe',ai sa intelegi ca sunt gauri negre clasice daca experimentul chiar reuseste sa faca ce e menit.
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Old 04-09-2008, 00:59   #34 (permalink)
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Asta imi aminteste de panica din 2000 cu Y2K cand scoteau toti ca apucatii banii din banci si ii bagau la saltea ca deh daca isi ia reset BNR.

Btw Cosmic Rays astea au energii mult mai mari decat poate face LHC si totusi nu suntem inghititi de gauri negre.

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Old 04-09-2008, 01:31   #35 (permalink)
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...Poate sa-mi spuna sau sa-mi dea cineva un link in care sa se explice de ce experimentul de pe 10sept nu prezinta absolut nici un fel de pericol?
Aici explica sumar exact despre ce e vorba: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micro_black_hole
 
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Old 04-09-2008, 07:01   #36 (permalink)
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Singura gaura neagra este aia din cunostintele tale generala, puna mana si cauta niste chestii de baza pe care ar fi trebuit sa le stii deja. Sau nu sunt pe iutub?
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Old 04-09-2008, 07:51   #37 (permalink)
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Thx!
Cam multi de "Perhaps" si "It is belived" for my liking.
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Old 04-09-2008, 07:54   #38 (permalink)
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Tocmai de asta s-a facut si LHC.
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Old 04-09-2008, 08:02   #39 (permalink)
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Nu la ce spera ei sa descopere ma refeream ci la faptul ca cica e posibil ca micro-gaura neagra sa fie prinsa in campul gravitational al pamantului. Adica nu stiu sigur daca se poate intampla asta dar e posibil. Cel putin asa zice articolul. Ca cititor care nu se pricepe, mi se pare destul de important sa stii destul de sigur daca gaura aia neagra va ramane acolo o bucata de vreme (si din cate stiu eu, gaurile astea negre au tendinta sa tot creasca) sau nu.

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If it is possible to create a stable micro black hole at the LHC, it is feared that due to the design of the LHC (two particle beams moving in opposite directions colliding) that a resulting black hole could be moving at a relatively slow speed. Perhaps slowly enough to be captured by earth's gravitational field.
Ce sa inteleg din asta? Si de ce se foloseste termenul de "feared"? La ce se refera notiunea de "feared" mai exact?
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Old 04-09-2008, 08:16   #40 (permalink)
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Scepticism stiintific. Nu mi-as bate capul prea tare din moment ce energia razelor solare din linkul lui Banzai este mai puternica si nu a produs aparent nici o microgaura neagra.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_h...rgy_collisions
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